tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post5774103853909937954..comments2024-03-17T07:55:12.096-07:00Comments on FOFOA: 我们爱金FOFOAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17152544684132776239noreply@blogger.comBlogger97125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-4459863131413915452010-05-27T10:27:52.535-07:002010-05-27T10:27:52.535-07:00Fauvi, the thing is that world government is inevi...Fauvi, the thing is that world government is inevitable ... if does not happen in this generation it will happen in the next.. or the next.. no matter sooner or later there will be world government and world central bank.. that is how we decided to organize as a species, from the day countries were created..<br /><br />the question how we can have more local power and self determination and I raptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472558794377090197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-32935260240100057862010-05-27T09:40:25.976-07:002010-05-27T09:40:25.976-07:00fauvi, and others, i will continue this conversati...fauvi, and others, i will continue this conversation in the new thread.SatyaPranavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02422604006082536504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-22352329684102406752010-05-27T04:00:35.667-07:002010-05-27T04:00:35.667-07:00A question for anyone here who believes that weste...A question for anyone here who believes that western central banks want a low gold price. I guess that is everybody here?<br /><br />Wouldn't the easiest way to mess up the physical gold market be to apply VAT to gold sales and imports? Thoughts on why they have not done that?mikedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13981067672117897379noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-20296760258670760912010-05-27T02:41:36.462-07:002010-05-27T02:41:36.462-07:00Satya,
a few quotes from that NYT - Butler - arti...Satya,<br /><br />a few quotes from that NYT - Butler - article:<br />"moral leadership"<br />"influence of liberal and enlightened political institutions"<br />"true internationalism is not the enemy of nationalistic principle"<br />"...get men free to develop..."<br />"Our central government is of limited and defined powers."<br /><br />Smoke Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-26749955825193933072010-05-27T01:42:15.590-07:002010-05-27T01:42:15.590-07:00Satya,
we are producing a bit of a noise now. Rega...Satya,<br />we are producing a bit of a noise now. Regardless.<br />"the EU was a very old creation, whose implementation is taking generations and centuries to fully implement. this strategy no doubt makes it more difficult for people who catch on to do much about it. it's brilliant"<br /><br />Yes, it's a brilliant conspiracy against humanity - like many others.<br />If Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-36225275160970357702010-05-27T00:02:38.589-07:002010-05-27T00:02:38.589-07:00allen,
Re: Muni defaults
I think there are so ma...allen,<br /><br />Re: Muni defaults<br /><br />I think there are so many potential triggers out there that it is hard to choose.<br /><br />IMHO Muni defaults would be met with QE BUT they could also draw people's attention back to the USA's problems and start the next leg down in the US$.<br /><br />Will it be the final act? I, for one, doubt it because I don't think the opposing costatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17932860172715556937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-66620625834436770122010-05-26T22:42:31.647-07:002010-05-26T22:42:31.647-07:00Raptor,
I think the USA has less need to hold for...Raptor,<br /><br />I think the USA has less need to hold forex reserves as they have been able to print the 'strongest currency' in unlimited supply for the past decades. They have had relative little need to defend their currency by intervention, so they generally chose to receive products instead of currencies for their dollars.Martijnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691085642452851905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-89184335674244879702010-05-26T22:30:31.012-07:002010-05-26T22:30:31.012-07:00Fauvi,
I think you misunderstood me. I simply lin...Fauvi,<br /><br />I think you misunderstood me. I simply linked an article that I thought somewhat relevant to FOFOA's vision (and that of other readers) on Europe.<br /><br />If you choose to see that as propaganda or anything feel free to do so, but that was not my intention.Martijnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691085642452851905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-53076048737722226392010-05-26T21:29:52.080-07:002010-05-26T21:29:52.080-07:00fauvi, i'm not sure i'd need to call them ...fauvi, i'm not sure i'd need to call them anything. I'd maybe think them confused, but realize it may be me who's confused. I think you and I are on the same page on this in some regards, and yet, I come here to hear a different perspective. <br /><br />The reason I posted the NYT article is because the evidence that I have seen suggests that the EU was a very old creation, SatyaPranavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02422604006082536504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-92055098846840285362010-05-26T15:04:10.842-07:002010-05-26T15:04:10.842-07:00Btw.. if you think about it the creation of the Eu...Btw.. if you think about it the creation of the Euro may be prolonged the live of the $ as reserve currency... cause it was able to offload big chunk of the debt which was created in Euro instead of $.<br /><br />What do you think... if not the Euro probably the 2008 crisis would have been 2004-2005 , may be ?!<br /><br />And Euro as a currency was able to support much larger debt, compared to raptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472558794377090197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-59846993745085825292010-05-26T14:26:18.465-07:002010-05-26T14:26:18.465-07:00Another interesting fact :
Eurosystem has 5 times...Another interesting fact :<br /><br />Eurosystem has 5 times more forex reserves than USA !<br /><br />http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_foreign_exchange_reservesraptorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11472558794377090197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-13519214141853220522010-05-26T14:21:06.133-07:002010-05-26T14:21:06.133-07:00The clever man tells, the wise man knows and only ...The clever man tells, the wise man knows and only the time judges.@mortymer001https://www.blogger.com/profile/13047624328777522777noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-33296158194835383602010-05-26T13:51:30.561-07:002010-05-26T13:51:30.561-07:00Satya,
have you read his last link?
How do you cal...Satya,<br />have you read his last link?<br />How do you call someone who suggests likings for globalist propaganda?<br />Or how do you call the message of that piece of shit he links for FOFOA?<br />What has Freegold to do with that BS?<br />As he lives in Europe he should better know about the dangers we are in for now. I don't wish to live in the US of Europe! <br /><br />"The Europe Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-50918743749400458362010-05-26T13:42:12.239-07:002010-05-26T13:42:12.239-07:00Could muni defaults start the waterfall effect awa...Could muni defaults start the waterfall effect away from 2.8 trillion in muni bonds and into gold?? Of course as long as investors think they can protect their fixed income by buying CDSs, they may not make that shift... or at least delay it.<br /><br />---------------------------------<br />...<br />If Harrisburg does file for bankruptcy, it would do so under Chapter 9-which is employed by Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13269067908292874746noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-6121127849845805722010-05-26T13:24:22.962-07:002010-05-26T13:24:22.962-07:00i'm actually sorry to be asking a question tha...i'm actually sorry to be asking a question that might inflame the tensions, fauvi. but why the need to be so harsh? there are many of us that believe that the EU is a dictatorship on here and some that find it relevant to freegold and some not.<br /><br />but reading the above, i'm having a hard time understanding the need to call martijn an ass because of his position. Moreover, I'SatyaPranavahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02422604006082536504noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-73569596224768061802010-05-26T12:27:01.429-07:002010-05-26T12:27:01.429-07:00Fauvi,
I have very little to do with the any fact...Fauvi,<br /><br />I have very little to do with the any facts regarding the EU as I'm sure you are aware of.Martijnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691085642452851905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-32688268291080897852010-05-26T11:16:41.309-07:002010-05-26T11:16:41.309-07:00The EU is a DICTATURSHIP Martin and you are a stup...The EU is a DICTATURSHIP Martin and you are a stupid ass. Full stop.<br />Sory to be that rude, but you deserve it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-84376257219002508022010-05-26T08:44:26.912-07:002010-05-26T08:44:26.912-07:00FOFOA,
Did you read this speech by Vítor Constânc...FOFOA,<br /><br />Did you read <a href="http://www.bis.org/review/r100525c.pdf" rel="nofollow">this speech</a> by Vítor Constâncio?<br /><br />You might just like it...Martijnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691085642452851905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-22509686218664697032010-05-26T08:34:10.874-07:002010-05-26T08:34:10.874-07:00The Greeks are buying British gold!!!
http://busi...The Greeks are buying British gold!!!<br /><br />http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/economics/article7135543.eceebikeguruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09287545925693281736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-66235050239245350732010-05-26T03:54:08.890-07:002010-05-26T03:54:08.890-07:00The US exorbitant privilege began at the Internati...The US exorbitant privilege began at the International Monetary Conference of 1922 when for the first time international banks were allowed to accept not only physical gold, but also US dollars (paper gold) as reserves. But all US dollars held by foreign banks were put on deposit back in New York City banks. And there they were counted as local US deposits, the same as if you and I put our goldFOFOAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17152544684132776239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-82840978362888547942010-05-26T03:29:28.258-07:002010-05-26T03:29:28.258-07:00FOFOA,
I was talking about your remark that perha...FOFOA,<br /><br />I was talking about your remark that perhaps: <i>So the Swiss acted like England, and Greece like Germany? Is this part of the ECB difference?</i> <br /><br />What I was trying to say is that the Swiss did perhaps act like England, but were much more in accordance with ECB vision then the English.<br /><br />They were redistributing their gold to allow what remained to take on Martijnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691085642452851905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-87027835203757643702010-05-26T03:13:27.980-07:002010-05-26T03:13:27.980-07:00Martijn,
I said, "Perhaps the 'indenture...Martijn,<br /><br />I said, "Perhaps the 'indentured servants' of tomorrow will be those who live in countries without sufficient reserve assets." I didn't even suggest that would be the Swiss. ;)<br /><br />Desperado,<br /><br />Transactional currencies can be anything, and they can be as local or as small as you want. But whatever the locality, whatever the size, net FOFOAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17152544684132776239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-58902937786190524782010-05-26T02:20:33.057-07:002010-05-26T02:20:33.057-07:00Grüss FOFOA,
I wish that everyone with a little g...Grüss FOFOA,<br /><br />I wish that everyone with a little gold could become their own CB and issue their own currency! But seriously, I often think the world would be far better place if it was made up of 1,000,000 Lichtensteins.<br /><br />In <a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601084&sid=anZ28pSgWE3I" rel="nofollow">this Marc Faber interview</a> from yesterday, Faber says Desperadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16215858025835016523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-14027190084532251102010-05-26T01:54:53.023-07:002010-05-26T01:54:53.023-07:00FOFOA,
The Swiss headquarter the BIS, and they ar...FOFOA,<br /><br />The Swiss headquarter the BIS, and they are in it too.<br /><br />Don't you think they sold their gold in coordination with the ECB?<br /><br />As you say about silver a metal has more value if it's more widely distributed.<br /><br />I guess that is what the Swiss acknowledged as well.<br /><br />And the remaining 1000 tonnes is still quite a lot for their 7mio Martijnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691085642452851905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-7610612608638206762010-05-26T01:21:21.344-07:002010-05-26T01:21:21.344-07:00dojufitz,
A/FOA did not really believe in silver....dojufitz,<br /><br />A/FOA did not really believe in silver. Central banks are also not holding any.<br /><br />The only thing is that silver is in relatively tight supply as it is an industrial commodity and is not hoarded in the amounts gold is.Martijnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10691085642452851905noreply@blogger.com