tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post1987595119365460484..comments2024-03-17T07:55:12.096-07:00Comments on FOFOA: It's the Flow, StupidFOFOAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17152544684132776239noreply@blogger.comBlogger48125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-22047972977548657952013-02-14T11:42:41.202-08:002013-02-14T11:42:41.202-08:00I am not sure the link to the full transcript of t...<br />I am not sure the link to the full transcript of the Yamani interview was posted anywhere. Here it is:<br /><br />http://www.bi-me.com/main.php?c=3&cg=4&t=1&id=48966<br /><br />VictorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-22957986784279960262011-10-09T04:50:18.880-07:002011-10-09T04:50:18.880-07:00Hey Jaqship
It's contextual. In this case I u...Hey Jaqship<br /><br />It's contextual. In this case I understand it to mean that the larger flows are being suppressed, i.e. gold is not being allowed to perform it's international function to balance trade. <br /><br />As to whether more gold would in reality flow after initial stability is achieved under this system is debatable.<br /><br />Go read up some more, so you can get a feel Motley Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06902761012772262091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-28932874907535244202011-10-09T03:46:08.783-07:002011-10-09T03:46:08.783-07:00Jaqship,
"when gold did flow at an optimum r...Jaqship,<br /><br /><i>"when gold did flow at an optimum rate?"</i><br /><br />Bear in mind that when gold flows it is what gold is carrying that is <i>the reason</i> for its flow, and what it is carrying is surplus value. This is golds function.<br /><br />Thus, <i><b>gold flowed at an optimum rate when it was correctly valued. </b></i><br /><br />The actual weight of the flow is not Piripihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03271512349186616514noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-90347480062687425472011-10-08T16:07:57.782-07:002011-10-08T16:07:57.782-07:00Hi Motley
As I understand FOFOA, he's saying ...Hi Motley<br /><br />As I understand FOFOA, he's saying that flow was and is suppressed by the US. From that post on Flow: "But what will really happen someday soon is the additional step of opening the vault and allowing that gold to FLOW again, but at a floating price."<br /><br />"To flow again." Hopefully someone can clarify when he believes gold did flow at an Jaqshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15559166195431878611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-12240777246943445262010-12-05T13:32:31.765-08:002010-12-05T13:32:31.765-08:00This does in fact make me wonder who wins from the...This does in fact make me wonder who wins from the deal at the end of the day.<br /><br />He who laughs last, laughs loudest. <br /><br />America has vast untapped oil reserves. As oil becomes scarcer it's marginal utility will increase. <br /><br />If mankind does not find a replacement for oil, when Saudis cheap oil runs out, would the US and others not be able to get all that gold back at Motley Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06902761012772262091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-23941179854124939142010-12-05T09:07:35.492-08:002010-12-05T09:07:35.492-08:00FOFOA
"We could have raised the dollar price...FOFOA<br /><br />"We could have raised the dollar price of gold to settle our accounts but that would not have raised the local oil price enough to make deep reserves available."<br /><br />This is interesting. This shows another benefit to the superpowers. They are preserving their oil reserves in the ground, by keeping oil priced artificially low, it's not profitable to mine out Motley Foolhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06902761012772262091noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-3918468620316830262010-10-27T14:53:21.060-07:002010-10-27T14:53:21.060-07:00@fofoa
Thank you Sir. I am going to go against th...@fofoa<br /><br />Thank you Sir. I am going to go against the grain and print out this piece. It is clap your hands like an idiot good. I did anyway, at least four times during this piece! Again. Thank you for your clarity of view and your grasp of the importance of following in the footsteps of those who write and enlighten before you and help us all get a view from above. <br /><br />The arms ebikeguruhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09287545925693281736noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-71197436731699286302010-10-27T08:25:59.765-07:002010-10-27T08:25:59.765-07:00thanks to everyone who takes time to share thought...thanks to everyone who takes time to share thoughts, comments, questions, etc.<br /><br />i feel like sir isaac, standing on the shoulders of some much taller people than myself<br /><br />what a view<br /><br />it's quite foggy, but still, sometimes i think i am seeing the horizon<br /><br />i didn't get into the aurum game soon enough, and have but one troy to my name<br /><br />but julianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07723030384717346108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-18479205331134755902010-10-26T22:09:55.290-07:002010-10-26T22:09:55.290-07:00@ FOFOA
Great article, thank you for all the effo...@ FOFOA<br /><br />Great article, thank you for all the effort you have put into this. It has helped me to understand the situation a lot better.<br /><br />@ Desperado<br /><br />Please keep posting your comments, they are great reading. I liked the exchange between you and Fauvi.<br /><br />@ Costata<br /><br />Great comments as usual, thanks.Petehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13424744710145557605noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-19735364789885386362010-10-26T19:38:22.298-07:002010-10-26T19:38:22.298-07:00Hello again Derrick,
I had a lot of help when I w...Hello again Derrick,<br /><br />I had a lot of help when I was trying to understand these matters. You will get there.<br /><br />The first issue you raise could be summarised as: How do you value currencies in terms of gold? Gold has to float against currencies in an open market. Here we refer to that as Freegold. "Free" as in free market.<br /><br />Eleven years ago Another announced costatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17932860172715556937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-78169733810124095982010-10-26T18:15:40.978-07:002010-10-26T18:15:40.978-07:00@ costata,
Thank you very much for shining light ...@ costata,<br /><br />Thank you very much for shining light on those questions for me!<br /><br />As for the first one on flow and purchasing power, that sound reasonable to me. I had a feeling that's what it was, but how do the oil producers go about figuring out what the purchasing power of gold is seeing as we don't widely use it as money? Say they're getting half as much per year,Derrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15944952519570417539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-9300311585873110072010-10-26T17:18:59.210-07:002010-10-26T17:18:59.210-07:00Hi Derrick,
In relation to your first question, i...Hi Derrick,<br /><br />In relation to your first question, it is a question of sustainable purchasing power. If US$1 million bought you 1,000 ounces of gold yesterday and 1 ounce of gold buys you US$1 million today provided that US$1 million buys the same amount of other stuff you have purchasing parity.<br /><br /><i>"Is he just saying that he thinks countries must also ship gold to the costatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17932860172715556937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-36821674549003986902010-10-26T15:56:25.227-07:002010-10-26T15:56:25.227-07:00These are some questions for someone struggling to...These are some questions for someone struggling to follow all these Thoughts... any help would be greatly appreciated:<br /><br />"And what the euro CB's figured out was all that mattered to the producer/savers of the world was the guaranteed FLOW of physical gold, NOT the guaranteed price or weight/mass."<br /><br />What is meant by this? Only care about the flow and not the weightDerrickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15944952519570417539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-67815613459560441412010-10-25T14:34:34.855-07:002010-10-25T14:34:34.855-07:00FOFOA
Thank you for this post. I think this is th...FOFOA<br /><br />Thank you for this post. I think this is the most important article of this blog (together with the maturation of the concepts in my head), to such an extent that extracts the essence of our situation. Sadly the title undermines the breadth of your sources, and quality of your writing.<br /><br />Nevertheless, the question of credibility of the sources (A/FOA..) is simply Gabrielhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04647249894551290481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-64023315306849924422010-10-25T11:43:13.744-07:002010-10-25T11:43:13.744-07:00Great post, FOFOA. Good comments, too. Some remark...Great post, FOFOA. Good comments, too. Some remarks on what others have said here, followed by observations about the post.<br /><br />@ littlepeople:<br /><br />"But, to me, the overriding factor is the debt."<br />I think this is close, but I would say the overriding factor is the deficit. After all, debts can be inflated or defaulted, but the government must continue to fund its Michael Hhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08900572113023618278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-90395020015619477202010-10-25T05:02:59.100-07:002010-10-25T05:02:59.100-07:00@ Irus;
you said "The U.S. Bond market will...@ Irus; <br /><br />you said "The U.S. Bond market will collapse<br /><br />by mid-December."<br /> <br />And a bit further; <br /><br />"The whole point and purpose of the coming U.S. bond market and dollar collapse is to get the Obama Budget Deficit commission’s austerity package passed by Congress. Once that happens,<br /><br />mid-December,<br /><br />the bond market and dollarg.https://www.blogger.com/profile/13849473291900470436noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-25483059049263567692010-10-25T02:55:32.232-07:002010-10-25T02:55:32.232-07:00@Fauvi,
I browsed through the links you provided....@Fauvi,<br /><br />I browsed through the links you provided. There is a lot of information contained in them, the majority unsubstantiated. If 50% of what Meyssan says is true, then we really are little more than sheeple.<br /><br />The 2 threads seem to be laced with CIA innuendo. I tend to think of the CIA as a highly politicized and relatively incompetent organization prone to bouts of Desperadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16215858025835016523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-63128624124849878612010-10-24T15:24:39.330-07:002010-10-24T15:24:39.330-07:00Springer and Bertelsmann are grey eminences here. ...Springer and Bertelsmann are grey eminences here. <br />We do have censorship here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-67099796919368589132010-10-24T15:21:45.344-07:002010-10-24T15:21:45.344-07:00FOFOA is simply the best..... I only wonder if the...FOFOA is simply the best..... I only wonder if there really are people informed enough around the world to see free gold .. ????. Seriously.. most people don't know anything , and that includes those in the business of banking and government... morons!!erikhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04334619779048792285noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-40116680297674676372010-10-24T15:05:06.724-07:002010-10-24T15:05:06.724-07:00Wow Fauvi, what links you have there.
From
Ange...Wow Fauvi, what links you have there.<br /><br />From <br /><br /><a href="http://www.voltairenet.org/article145409.html" rel="nofollow">Angela Merkel, a Neocon as President of the European Union<br />by Thierry Meyssan*</a><br /><br /><i>From then on, Angela Merkel was publicly supported by two press groups. Firstly, she was able to count on the support of Friede Springer, who had inherited the Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11117071924639911917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-64843204912509119072010-10-24T14:18:06.354-07:002010-10-24T14:18:06.354-07:00Aleksandar,
I appreciate your understanding. Actu...Aleksandar,<br /><br />I appreciate your understanding. Actually I’m an agnostic thus I need a big picture to grasp the whole thing. That common denominator I still miss . Of course, I may be blind but I work for my enlightment.<br /> <br />Desperado<br /><br />Have a look at this author’s articles.<br /><br />Angela Merkel, a Neocon as President of the European Union by Thierry Meyssan ( no Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-6777146654830378992010-10-24T13:31:12.937-07:002010-10-24T13:31:12.937-07:00Fauvi
You are focussing too much on the visible t...Fauvi<br /><br />You are focussing too much on the visible thigs, like issues in politics. Not that such things are unimportant, but they are not the essence of what was conveyed a decade ago by A and F of A.<br /><br />The stuff that makes or breaks, that turns things around is not the visible. Yes, it is sometimes there in plain sight and afterwards we may only scratch our heads and say: how Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11117071924639911917noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-28147004317140902962010-10-24T13:26:02.310-07:002010-10-24T13:26:02.310-07:00@Fauvi
I don't speak Dutch, but aside from hi...@Fauvi<br /><br />I don't speak Dutch, but aside from his death and her lunacy I don't see anything in the articles you posted that sheds any light on the ECB.<br /><br />IMO, what you have shown is evidence of a link between the Islamists, the left and the EU-Elite (through the ECB). This meshes with Anothers faith in the Euro, his inside knowledge of the gold for oil exchange and the Desperadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16215858025835016523noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-64407295979229997092010-10-24T12:27:51.060-07:002010-10-24T12:27:51.060-07:00Desperado,
I don’t care so much about the muslim...Desperado, <br /><br />I don’t care so much about the muslim conflict neither in the EU nor in EU.<br />I think it’s diversion for the sheeple and even intentionally created. Divide et impera!<br />Chaos for more authoritarianism.<br />I wouldn’t either say that Gretta is a leftist. I simply do not know. What I know is that she has a right to free opinion , to express it and Duisenberg sustainedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-36411263878077115252010-10-24T12:01:33.062-07:002010-10-24T12:01:33.062-07:00@Fauvi,
I wasn't aware that Duisenberg's ...@Fauvi,<br /><br />I wasn't aware that Duisenberg's wife was such a leftist wing nut, she would fit right into Obama's world. And apparently Duisenberg supported her. Why am I not surprised?<br /><br />Have you seen this youtube clip where <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNPqQ8-8LbI" rel="nofollow">the Swiss were the first to ban the minaret</a>? It is another example of Desperadohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16215858025835016523noreply@blogger.com