tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post3031746744534126517..comments2024-03-17T07:55:12.096-07:00Comments on FOFOA: The Dukes of Wetton – A Bedtime StoryFOFOAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17152544684132776239noreply@blogger.comBlogger563125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-86457260373994050932013-05-16T10:08:59.300-07:002013-05-16T10:08:59.300-07:00Claims Pages - The Claims Pages is the largest cir...Claims Pages - The Claims Pages is the largest circulated reference <br />source for insurance <a href="https://plus.google.com/115290600635137664093/about" rel="nofollow">claims pages</a> adjusters.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15903437880014810444noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-28231372744990833122013-05-16T05:27:11.064-07:002013-05-16T05:27:11.064-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.ampmfixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01228037724843795541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-47785167592572853792013-05-16T05:06:37.566-07:002013-05-16T05:06:37.566-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.ampmfixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01228037724843795541noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-69356242146025322172013-05-16T03:11:18.866-07:002013-05-16T03:11:18.866-07:00ae,
FOFOA: The way the gold market works today ...ae, <br /> <br />FOFOA: The way the gold market works today is a little different. It is kind of a flow within a flow. On the surface, anyone can very easily buy exposure to the price of gold. In fact, this "exposure" is all that most Westerners want, including traders, speculators, goldbugs, hedgefunds, anykindafunds, banks, you name it. And most of this group is firmly in the debtors Jeffhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08785185950964767294noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-85309002976481642632013-05-16T01:49:19.767-07:002013-05-16T01:49:19.767-07:00Confiscation via tax or expropiation tends to affe...Confiscation via tax or expropiation tends to affect not just the targeted industry. <br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-6277905054622142362013-05-15T20:24:35.439-07:002013-05-15T20:24:35.439-07:00JR,
That is pretty rude. You insisted pre-exist...JR,<br /> That is pretty rude. You insisted pre-existing disconnect between paper and physical was essential to FG, so I laid a scenario that gets to FG without the disconnect until the transition point. <br /><br />You obviously think that the LBMA fix is and has been a complete fraud for over a decade, and that believing that is both essential to and a prerequisite to FreeGold. I would say Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-3400978080763558572013-05-15T20:06:32.332-07:002013-05-15T20:06:32.332-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.tEONhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077920840657112941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-65418478407547746502013-05-15T19:58:37.323-07:002013-05-15T19:58:37.323-07:00GrumpyLumpy said…
The threat of nationalization i...GrumpyLumpy said…<br /><br /><i><b>The threat of nationalization is to scare owners into dumping shares in a panic to be scooped by insiders.</b> Disregarding property rights is a slippery slope. At the brink the threat is rarely followed through on.</i><br /><br />FOFOA said…<br /><br /><i>When that happens the mines will be treated in one of three ways: 1. They will be <b>nationalized</b> as Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13451592775494356839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-54143372390455254172013-05-15T19:45:06.472-07:002013-05-15T19:45:06.472-07:00Jim Willie, in his own amusing acerbic way, gave m...Jim Willie, in his own amusing acerbic way, gave miner advice too... many moons ago.<br />"<i>Clinging to precious metals mining stocks is not part of my forecasts, a decision made back in early 2008. They are bound in paper wealth, subject to inflation in share dilution just like the USDollar, vulnerable to jurisdictional confiscations, and at the mercy of labor unions whose production is tEONhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077920840657112941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-66899604557908827102013-05-15T19:42:07.905-07:002013-05-15T19:42:07.905-07:00The threat of nationalization is to scare owners i...The threat of nationalization is to scare owners into dumping shares in a panic to be scooped by insiders. Disregarding property rights is a slippery slope. At the brink the threat is rarely followed through on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-81176396255072097402013-05-15T19:31:47.704-07:002013-05-15T19:31:47.704-07:00This 'hedging' too?
FoA: "The most i...This 'hedging' too?<br /><br />FoA: "<i>The most important aspect of gold as financial disaster insurance is that it is immune from default. The second point, particularly important for the gold mining investor, is that in financial crisis, desperate governments are prone to disregard the property rights of large holders of industrial assets. <b>The most captive form of industrial tEONhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077920840657112941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-74195565516061584392013-05-15T19:22:40.071-07:002013-05-15T19:22:40.071-07:00When FOA was writing miners were hedging. That'...When FOA was writing miners were hedging. That's to what he was referring.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-31982291920362318642013-05-15T19:08:18.694-07:002013-05-15T19:08:18.694-07:00Miners, eh Grumps? Sorry to hear. I wonder if you&...Miners, eh Grumps? Sorry to hear. I wonder if you'd have changed that decision if you'd have read FoA (or, maybe, <i>if</i> you had believed?...)<br /><br />"<i>You see, there is a world of difference between saving real money as a "wealth of ages" and trying to trade this world's "paper derivatives". The lasting wealth of physical gold does not have to be &tEONhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15077920840657112941noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-10756896941827674792013-05-15T18:49:12.857-07:002013-05-15T18:49:12.857-07:00I'm overweight gold and miners BTW.
All this ...I'm overweight gold and miners BTW.<br /><br />All this fuss can be settled with this take-home message: IF RATES ARE NEGATIVE OVERWEIGHT GOLD INVESTMENTS, BULLION AND UNHEDGED MINERS. THE TIME TO COME OUT IS WHEN THE DEBT HAS BEEN PURGED AND RATES ARE +.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-68127978277159990312013-05-15T18:34:07.748-07:002013-05-15T18:34:07.748-07:00if anyone wants to read the effect of India Govt r...if anyone wants to read the effect of India Govt regulation on Speculative imports. sounds correct to me.<br /><br /><br />http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/business/rbi-measure-will-curb-speculative-gold-demand-pc-jeweller_871822.htmlBijuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02244761585623384771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-53201401235645403332013-05-15T18:30:40.303-07:002013-05-15T18:30:40.303-07:00The BRICS Developmental Bank.
Bennie's 2002 s...The BRICS Developmental Bank.<br /><br />Bennie's 2002 speech.<br /><br />It's been done over and over.<br /><br />You know what's missing from the FG model, it's how interest rates are handled. Ask yourself why hold gold if a saver can get a real positive rate on currency? The goldbugs often trot out the chart showing the debasement of the dollar but that chart doesn't Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-73718573543428765162013-05-15T18:22:34.746-07:002013-05-15T18:22:34.746-07:00cont.....
This is for the simple reason that whi...<br />cont.....<br /><i><br /><br />This is for the simple reason that while the bonds will insulate the savings from the draconian tax of inflation, they would not provide any returns by way of additional profits as gold has provided during the last decade.<br /><br />How does the government propose to insulate investors through the indexed bonds? The government has stated that that the Capital Bijuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02244761585623384771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-11483592435781293142013-05-15T18:22:03.943-07:002013-05-15T18:22:03.943-07:00INDIA : Coming in June, inflation-linked bonds
h...INDIA : Coming in June, inflation-linked bonds <br /><br />http://www.thehindu.com/business/Economy/coming-in-june-inflationlinked-bonds/article4717814.ece?homepage=true<br /><br />THis looks like US TIPS Inflation indexed bonds to me.<br /><br /><i><br /><br />The bonds are being launched to discourage investments in gold as whopping imports of the yellow metal have been adversely impacting Bijuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02244761585623384771noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-54763896232613415932013-05-15T17:39:56.026-07:002013-05-15T17:39:56.026-07:00Grumps...now you have bastardized fofoa and blondi...Grumps...now you have bastardized fofoa and blondie. You are on a roll.<br /><br />So a new system is just put in place...walla...poof. You didn't mention credibility. Does that just poof in as well?<br />How does all that happen? Is it like <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=XRZitnndpoY#t=17s" rel="nofollow">this?</a><br /><br /><br />Tommy2Tonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16133943613008149092noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-39472356708287451782013-05-15T17:34:55.981-07:002013-05-15T17:34:55.981-07:00(cont.) more like 16 years now ...
And all this ti...(cont.) more like 16 years now ...<br />And all this time the BIS is valuing an ounce of gold by the number of paper claims upon it, denominated in the paper of the claimant ... and we Shrimp, with our Kitco charts and computer screens see only "$1390 and falling"?<br /><br />Do these not represent two wildly different "paper prices"? Has not the Giant paper price aleady Roacheforquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00732611346849043119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-28413953654107239412013-05-15T17:26:27.096-07:002013-05-15T17:26:27.096-07:00Think of the price of gold as a thermostat for the...Think of the price of gold as a thermostat for the financial system and the value of gold as a transverse dimension to this system like the imaginary axis in mathematics.<br /><br />During most of the life cycle of the system a real positive interest rate is possible, the POG is stable or even dropping and the value of gold is stable or dropping. Much of the savings/capital is in real financial Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-89504701611611139372013-05-15T17:11:04.585-07:002013-05-15T17:11:04.585-07:00When we the Shrimple "see" the true pric...When we the Shrimple "see" the true price, the true divergence, why Freegold will be upon us, and we will suddenly see what Giants have gradually watched and we have only glimpsed since a single giant "spoke the truth" in the '90's.<br /><br />That one single Giant, speaking the truth publicly on the Internet, created no less than a cult following of 14 years, and is Roacheforquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00732611346849043119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-82318894828431061752013-05-15T16:59:11.684-07:002013-05-15T16:59:11.684-07:00Hi Daedalus Mugged,
I must apologize, I am in err...Hi Daedalus Mugged,<br /><br />I must apologize, I am in error. I didn't realize you were soliciting attendees for your lecture on freegold.<br /><br />If I had known this was the case, I wouldn't have so selfishly taken a seat when it would have been more gracious to offer it to others. I'm kinda antsy and get ill-tempered when I'm asked to sit still for a while, so Great JRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16557291339314007837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-71770767922795304322013-05-15T16:44:48.391-07:002013-05-15T16:44:48.391-07:00DM,
The flower tells me that perhaps the paper pri...DM,<br />The flower tells me that perhaps the paper price and physical diverged at incept of this "new from the 90's" paper gold market ... and has been widening ever since.<br /><br />Like so many things we are "waiting for" as in hyperinflation, they have "already happened" and as this massive Titanic of a system "turns" we wait decades for the "Roacheforquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00732611346849043119noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-79450658269637386742013-05-15T16:23:36.771-07:002013-05-15T16:23:36.771-07:00Jojo,
Where Prete talks about TIME and the butcher...Jojo,<br />Where Prete talks about TIME and the butcher/gardner for reference ... these thoughts reveal a somewhat kindred yet original/creative understanding of time/debt and gold which appears to escape the more Western leaning "mentally blocked". It intrigues me.<br /><br />But I come to you with another thought: What does it take to have a voice in the BIS? I did see Another speak Roacheforquehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00732611346849043119noreply@blogger.com