tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post8482489444270681739..comments2024-03-17T07:55:12.096-07:00Comments on FOFOA: Glimpsing the HereafterFOFOAhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17152544684132776239noreply@blogger.comBlogger377125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-64833434808239387222012-02-11T06:04:13.257-08:002012-02-11T06:04:13.257-08:00Oh, if somebody argues that in the great awesome E...Oh, if somebody argues that in the great awesome EURO-area you can not kick the can down further, because there is a limit to debt selling, null problemo, you can raise the trade balance by selling debts much further, AFTER YOU'RE DEAD:<br />http://www.mmnews.de/index.php/politik/9453-rente-mit-72<br />Quick english explanation:<br />"Studies" show, that gov. shall raise the AdvocatusDiabolihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05290930478826481037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-47643342475587401012012-02-11T02:27:39.560-08:002012-02-11T02:27:39.560-08:00Costata, the London Banker thesis sounds quite fea...Costata, the London Banker thesis sounds quite feasible. <br />I have the impression that this is to be a currency war of attrition. The EU is trying to kick the can down the road (while simultaneously keeping the hedge funds well-fed and keeping their constituencies from eachother's throats), until the US collapses under its own weight. No easy task with such insatiable hedge funds, ignorantseanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03383810213841234946noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-63709301179156432842012-02-10T06:59:41.257-08:002012-02-10T06:59:41.257-08:00One Bad Adder:
My response was to Edwardo's p...One Bad Adder:<br /><br />My response was to Edwardo's post made at 6:23 PM. One useful resource I found on this subject is Chris Martenson's Crash Course, specifically the chapter on the environment. It seems clear to me (but aparently not to everybody) that if petroleum were regenerating at nearly the same pace as it being extracted, there wouldn't be a need to be drilling thousandsFrancohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17571279881368495955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-90384380450597889982012-02-10T01:25:40.037-08:002012-02-10T01:25:40.037-08:00...and what wonders me most is what happens once t......and what wonders me most is what happens once the german population wakes up how they got royally screwed:<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zDUD9ZgPe0<br />(This is about the great new private retirement accounts introduced 2001).<br /><br />If somebody wonders how the PIGS came to the money, or who is buying the bonds?<br />Germans work to lend the earned money packed in form of financialAdvocatusDiabolihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05290930478826481037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-63814865860086489532012-02-09T23:24:33.894-08:002012-02-09T23:24:33.894-08:00Hi RJP,
the problem is and what the ANOTHER worshi...Hi RJP,<br />the problem is and what the ANOTHER worshippers and technocrats dont get:<br />THE EURO CAN NOT WORK.<br />Instead of uniting Europe it brings hatred between the nations. Just look at the newspapers.<br />Debtors&savers living peacefully with each other? That farytale Freegold is about? No, with abondoning the EMU and installing the Euro THIS IS EXACTLY the OPPOSITE.<br />I AdvocatusDiabolihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05290930478826481037noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-15413222734263168472012-02-09T22:47:14.279-08:002012-02-09T22:47:14.279-08:00RJP,
I am not going to engage you in debate on th...RJP,<br /><br />I am not going to engage you in debate on the subject of the civil war. You made a polarizing statement. I responded with one. I am certain that we could go back and forth and never come to an agreement as to our perceptions of that period of history.<br /><br />This yankee will stand down.Nickelsaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252539946241943478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-70775857798811404552012-02-09T22:10:08.640-08:002012-02-09T22:10:08.640-08:00Ad,
To answer you question about how long it migh...Ad,<br /><br />To answer you question about how long it might take to get freegold values before one gets "pissed":<br /><br />I didn't buy gold to cash out at a "feegold" price. I bought gold because I thought 420 oz of silver (at the time) was enough silver.<br /><br />I suppose in the past I``ve thought about my holdings as a retirement fund, so to speak. Now I kinda Wendyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17448815628676884529noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-72629788370475799102012-02-09T22:07:03.622-08:002012-02-09T22:07:03.622-08:00A very interesting analysis of the deal with Greec...A very interesting analysis of the deal with Greece from 'London Banker'.<br /><br />http://londonbanker.blogspot.com.au/2012/02/greece-cutting-out-middle-man.html<br /><br />A must read IMHO.costatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17932860172715556937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-87794083753167240502012-02-09T22:01:29.324-08:002012-02-09T22:01:29.324-08:00I should also add that the point I was trying to m...I should also add that the point I was trying to make was that if the Greeks, Irish, etc decide to leave the EU or the eurozone, no one's going to come in with guns and force them to stay in a "voluntary" union.<br /><br />The EU and the euro currency were partly born out of a desire to avoid more fratricidal wars. This is something AD should be thankful for. When state sovereignty RJPadavonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16571203673706820886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-33358488172718003022012-02-09T21:59:23.302-08:002012-02-09T21:59:23.302-08:00Some commenters at ZH seem to grasp the implicatio...Some commenters at ZH seem to grasp the implications of this better than Tyler Durden. Perhaps this is fallout from the failure to protect the customers of MF Global. Are traders voting with their feet and moving to other exchanges and trading platforms? <br /><br /><b>CME Cuts Gold, Silver, Platinum And Copper Margins</b><br /><br />http://www.zerohedge.com/news/costatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17932860172715556937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-6539717811855334752012-02-09T21:50:57.018-08:002012-02-09T21:50:57.018-08:00Ari: - Thanks for that.
Franco: -
Scrolled half w...Ari: - Thanks for that.<br /><br />Franco: -<br />Scrolled half way up the page trying to locate to whom your comment was directed ...without success, so if I may: -<br /><br />There's a theory relating to <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin" rel="nofollow">Abiotic Oil </a> (mainly the Russians) that suggests Oil reservoirs can and do regenerate (given time) from One Bad Adderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03595137025269992083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-42483348542160752202012-02-09T21:25:22.184-08:002012-02-09T21:25:22.184-08:00Nickelsaver,
You are correct. Slavery was a horri...Nickelsaver,<br /><br />You are correct. Slavery was a horrible institution and much worse genocide occurred in Africa. However, all other civilized nations abolished slavery without a war.<br /><br />Although this is not the forum for this discussion, its late and I have nothing better to do.<br /><br />Although slavery later became an issue, it was not the catalyst that started The Civil War. RJPadavonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16571203673706820886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-19944597043099147142012-02-09T20:56:04.036-08:002012-02-09T20:56:04.036-08:00"slaughtering 2% of the population...was done...<i>"slaughtering 2% of the population...was done by the mass-murdering war criminal Abraham Lincoln. His quest for more political/economic integration and centralization of power was much bloodier than the methods used by the European elites of today."</i><br /><br />Revisionist poppy-cock!!<br /><br />You wanna talk mass murder, how about the genocide of hundreds of thousands of Nickelsaverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17252539946241943478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-12710889308956784992012-02-09T20:36:19.673-08:002012-02-09T20:36:19.673-08:00AD,
I understand the sour taste you have in your ...AD,<br /><br />I understand the sour taste you have in your mouth when it comes to the centralizing ways of the Eurocrats. As a proud resident of Dixie and a self-taught student of history, I'm well aware of what can happen when sovereignty is lost. However, I'm of the opinion that you should be happy the Eurocrats are achieving more integration through the carrot and stick approach as RJPadavonahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16571203673706820886noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-91472890369476635312012-02-09T20:25:02.468-08:002012-02-09T20:25:02.468-08:00@victorthecleaner (7:16)
I am a simple person Vic...@victorthecleaner (7:16)<br /><br />I am a simple person Victor, so please forgive my simple comment. But it seems to me times have changed. Information is all around us. The information controllers have long lost grasp of the wheel. Post birth World Wide Web those in both East and West with passion and perseverance have equally been granted access to the highest education possible for the few Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13451592775494356839noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-36461962195958640742012-02-09T19:30:32.072-08:002012-02-09T19:30:32.072-08:00Hi Edwardo,
Gregor has written about PO and PCO f...Hi Edwardo,<br /><br />Gregor has written about PO and PCO for quite a few years.<br /><br />One observation about that Q&A. His interpretation of the a-typical rebound in oil after the typical recession induced fall in price. I'm still dubious about the explanations being proffered for the V-shaped price recovery.<br /><br />In relation to your comment about a wealth transfer there are costatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17932860172715556937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-90966366829509798702012-02-09T19:29:01.315-08:002012-02-09T19:29:01.315-08:00The "theory" of peak oil? I take it that...The "theory" of peak oil? I take it that the quote marks indicate your lack of agreement with the "theory" of peak oil? If peak oil is an incorrect theory, what then? What happens when you continue to extract petroleum from the ground? It magically regenerates forever so ithat it will never be exhausted. Is it a renewable resource? What is there to disagree with regarding peakFrancohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17571279881368495955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-88171854187335663052012-02-09T19:16:21.474-08:002012-02-09T19:16:21.474-08:00I am just reminded of my history classes long ago....I am just reminded of my history classes long ago. It is about the medieval Roman Catholic Church.<br /><br />The bible was available only in classical Greek and in Latin. Only the monks and the priests could read the book of all books. Ordinary people were not educated, and the only option they had was to listen to the clerics. In fact, ordinary people were not <b>supposed</b> to ask questions Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-91664058403527767162012-02-09T18:23:41.260-08:002012-02-09T18:23:41.260-08:00Thanks for the link, Costata.
Regarding your co...Thanks for the link, Costata. <br /><br />Regarding your comments and observations below:<br /><br />"How do you cope with the loss of purchasing power by 2 billion over-indebted consumers?"<br /><br />"Perhaps by creating 5 billion new consumers with savings to spend. That would justify, in some people's minds, kicking a few cans down the road over the past decade."<br /Edwardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03613197383283896190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-59040747053691841782012-02-09T17:02:40.697-08:002012-02-09T17:02:40.697-08:00Ari, this recent exchange to attempt to understand...Ari, this recent exchange to attempt to understand one FOA paragraph reminds me of JR's comments earlier:<br /><br />"A/FOA/FOFOA's tale is hard and complex"<br /><br />Indeed and an understatement to state there's many many layers to the cake.<br /><br />And this most recent snippet (albeit a pretty big snippet imo) of understanding has now provided another perspective/KJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013187540374062181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-74208424489057804452012-02-09T16:54:03.613-08:002012-02-09T16:54:03.613-08:00Edwardo et al,
Interesting Q&A on energy and ...Edwardo et al,<br /><br />Interesting Q&A on energy and economics with Gregor Macdonald here:<br /><br />http://www.goldmoney.com/gold-research/q-and-a-with-gregor-macdonald-part-1.html?gmrefcode=dollarc<br /><br /><b>Q. Do you see emerging markets continuing to suffer on account of their reliance on western demand?</b><br /><br /><b>Gregor:</b> <i>That's a concern which had more costatahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17932860172715556937noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-51387186520409826092012-02-09T16:38:00.355-08:002012-02-09T16:38:00.355-08:00KJ (3:51 PM)
Very nice -- strategic and tactful a...KJ (3:51 PM)<br /><br />Very nice -- strategic and tactful are the key words indeed. I must learn to compose my comments more quickly, or else (preferably) defer to your timely words of wisdom!<br /><br />--- AriAristotlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00978138263660813317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-74971640656689833372012-02-09T16:32:27.808-08:002012-02-09T16:32:27.808-08:00victorthecleaner (3:40 PM)
You ought to know well...victorthecleaner (3:40 PM)<br /><br />You ought to know well enough that the small piece about national pedigree vs gold disposition has nothing to do with your mischaracterization about "appeasement".<br /><br />The national pedigree vs gold disposition made by FOA was in the interest of bearing in mind the setting of the stage. And by that I mean that the Netherlands in the final Aristotlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00978138263660813317noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-24113997613503488692012-02-09T15:51:22.765-08:002012-02-09T15:51:22.765-08:00attempting to understand vtc's comments at 11:...attempting to understand vtc's comments at 11:23pm and FOA's post on 08/22/01. <br /><br />my understanding from FOA's post is the choice of Duisenberg was brilliantly tactical and strategic without any direct appeasement to the US. If I understand correctly, the choice of Duisenberg would have been the opposite of a concession and was not made to maintain peace. <br /><br />http:/KJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06013187540374062181noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4490468598422095060.post-81076896875022448012012-02-09T15:45:22.719-08:002012-02-09T15:45:22.719-08:00and
aspire not to twist their words. It's a p...and<br /><br /><i>aspire not to twist their words. It's a perilously common downfall for those who favor the illusion of "winning" a discussion over more noble objectives such as 1) effective communication and, ultimately, 2) truth seeking.</i><br /><br />Well said. Did I really have to hold up the mirror before this was acknowledged here?<br /><br />Alright then. Let there be peaceAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com