Thursday, January 1, 2015

Happy New Year!

2015
Year of the Fire



ANOTHER:
Make no mistake, a currency fire
is now in process and it has much fuel remaining.
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As was said before, the real gold market that most people invest in is gone! Any gold trading paper will evaporate in the heat of fire now starting to burn. I tell you now, when the currencies are at nuclear war, GOLD WILL NOT TRADE
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An experienced guide is not needed for this trail, look around you and see. The real money is selling ALL FORMS of paper gold and buying physical! Why? Because any form of paper gold is losing value much, much faster than metal. Some paper will disappear altogether in a fire of epic proportions! The massive trading continues at LBMA, but something is now missing? The CBs are no longer lending! They will not anymore!
We have reached production costs.
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But I say, spend your time in the company of truly wealthy ones, see how they make gold lie very still! Know this now, the world will again, in your time, feel value in gold as never before.
And that value will be as the "productive use of
holding wealth thru the fire of change".
"Yes, you can also walk in the footsteps of giants".
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Such will be today as all forms of "gold commerce" as denominated in dollars is put to fire. It is the very reason nations of resource wealth do not invest in "gold in the ground" … Gold above the ground is the real money for the future.
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For some time I have asked persons to consider that all gold paper will burn! The investment in physical gold by dollar holders will collect a lifetime of value. A value hidden in the dollar price of gold! Today, all "gold industry" paper is on fire, for all to see, as the present system for trading gold falls into failure. Indeed, $10,000 gold may prove a "contradiction" that cannot be true, yet does exist in the future. In the past, the thought of such a price of gold did present the "irresistible" urge to buy into the industry this "Dollar based market represents". Only greed can explain the need to gain more than the value "real bullion"
will one day present.
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FOA:
The point that this was a "New Gold Market", "unlike none before", in that the dollar market of gold would totally disappear in a blaze of paper fire! ... It is no wonder that no analysts of the gold industry can afford to see the outcome of Another! Conversely, every free citizen, worldwide, that holds and continues to buy physical gold will welcome this change. Dynamic times, indeed! We speed quickly to the conclusion of one of the greatest changes in currency values ever seen. thank you FOA
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If one knows where the fire exits are ahead of time, some will get out without getting burned. But, some still think gold derivatives (gold stocks included) amount to the same exits. When this market matures, they will find those doors locked. Even more so today than in years past, investors are finding this to be true. And the real fire hasn't even started yet!
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Just as the Fed is now "managing" an all-consuming dollar fire, so will the last of the gold bankers "Manage" their now ongoing fire. Eventually, it will take them completely out of the gold banking business and leave a wake of scorched earth. Everyone (and I mean everyone) that must utilize gold derivatives to work this modern market will be hurt by this. Even some major players are showing the road ahead as they must unload big positions in gold derivatives (last Friday) because of (you guessed it) this dollar burning crisis. And we are only just getting started! Who is going to bid for future gold (paper gold) when its delivery party is being cleaned out on the cash side from an unrelated play? Indeed, will anyone bid for paper gold when they themselves are being skinned in this? You see, there will be no security in dollar gold derivatives when the whole dollar house is on fire. They will bid for metal that is available "right now" or not bid at all! Only the "straight up" "cash bullion only" dealers will come out clean and strong in this. Is this a correct read of the cards all the players are holding? Let's hold some physical, lean back
and watch the events unfold.
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If this currency war gets out of hand, our boys could drive the London price as low as they want it to go! The paper won't be worth much in real gold, but every trader, market maker and mine owner/investor is contractually locked to that price making medium. It could all go down in a huge ball of fire and only the physical holders will be whole.
(notice I said holders not just owners (smile))
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We will later see the effects of all this as it is played out in what MK calls "the currency wars". War is truly a much better name for it. While Western investors are preparing for a little $100 or $200 rise in paper gold (and worrying about how their paper gold substitutes will hold up until we get there), the whole damn dollar arena is on fire. Everyone asks the same question you do about dollar arena currencies: "So, why does sterling continue to rise relentlessly?" Yet, in this day and time strength in these major currencies comes during a crisis. It's going to shock a lot of investors at how fast price inflation runs once the wars really get started. After the gold markets implode, physical will rush as never before seen in history. Exciting times my friend!
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With nowhere to turn, no new initiatives to tap and arriving at a timeline change in international currency values; both these countries are about to take a path of no return. As this downturn begins to bite, our collective governments will be forced to buy up every asset necessary. All just to keep the fires burning! This is the classic threshold of an intense inflation.

It makes me recall a line from Red October, the movie,,,,,, where the Russian submarine captain (played by our retired 007) disposes of his KGB counterpart just before stealing the ship!
He says:

----- "to where I am going, you cannot follow"-----

Indeed, where the dollar universe is now heading, no nation should follow! Can you spell hyperinflation?


Next time I will discuss; what one should really expect to see when all paper burns; and how close political events are saying we are to that fire!
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The media concentrates on treating the dollar more like a stock investment than a major international reserve. Considering the way our Fed is socializing our money policy now; perhaps the dollar has embarked down that road and is becoming "just a quick trade investment"! Perhaps a Hyper Trade investment, at that.

I think the majority of Western money theorists want this perception in place:

--"lower rates build the economy
and therefore the currency, too!"--

Never mind that this flies in the face of everything we and the IMF taught the third world about money policy over decades! A policy that says: your country is going down the drain because your money policy is not free trade structured like ours is! Now, we suddenly cheer any policy that tends to support us and try to explain it in a "dollar supporting" slant.

We do this, because we want the dollar market to deliver our investments out of the current US fire storm; it has nothing to do with the strength or hardness of the dollar. In this respect, media cheerleading has little to do with the dollar being a sanctuary for foreign holders during troubled times, either. It has everything to do with local internal US investments going bad. To hell with the hard currency policy we taught you—a return on money that's above inflation or free market competition to weed out the weak—we want our money back and [to hell with] the world! … This is why Europe and the BIS structured the Euro system so it could completely discard all dollar reserve function if needed.
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ANOTHER:
I do not offer to prove my thoughts. If what is written was easy for all to find, the information would be of no use to you. Many will take no motions to change their ways and protect worth.
Such is life.

Each will choose his way and as always
the future will teach the truth.

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New Year's is a time to offer predictions for the coming year, but just like all dangerous products need warning labels, I must warn you that I do not have a crystal ball. What I have is, I think, a rather unique lens. I call my lens "Freegold", and it is quite simply a framework in which to view things in a different light. Events that seem to defy other frameworks of understanding and confound their practitioners, requiring either complex explanations or else fluid notions that must be reversible anytime the wind changes directions, seem to make sense easily with my lens, which is why I take its view so seriously. That said, I think the following quote should become my standard disclaimer, especially on New Year's Day posts:

FOA: "I (we) expect none of you to consider anything said here as credible. Everything is given as I understand it. If you came with a notion that I am someone who sees the future, grab the children and run far away. For these Thoughts, and my ongoing commentary, are meant to impact exactly as the "gentleman" said they would. People hear them, and whether believed or not, the words leave a mark. A mental mark on the trail, if you will. And later, after the world turns, our little "stacks of rocks" will be easier to understand next time you are passing this way. In fact, your ability to find your own way will forever be enhanced for having seen this path in a different light."

The dollar is on fire right now… 90.28 at the close! That should be a good thing for the dollar, right? I mean, look at the ruble. It goes down and the Russian state struggles while the Russian people panic. Meanwhile the dollar is up and everything's great in the US, from the stock market to the GDP. Up good, down bad, is that how it works? And why is the dollar rising when our trade deficit is still above $40B per month?

Currency strength—a propensity to constantly rise—has always been the dollar's curse. It's why we print, to keep it from going up, because if we didn't, it would just go up up and away, all the way up to currency heaven. It is a characteristic of being the reserve currency, and it is a vicious circle that drives the dollar's exchange rate and our trade deficit up.

The vicious circle works like this. Foreigners settle some portion of international trade in dollars, and then they hold onto those dollars as a kind of final settlement, savings or reserves. This drains dollar liquidity from the foreign exchange which causes the dollar's exchange rate to rise. As the dollar's exchange rate rises, this causes foreigners to want to hold more dollars (because dollars are gaining purchasing power for them locally, not as a reward for hard work, but as a gift of timing) which drains even more dollar liquidity from the foreign exchange which causes the dollar to rise even more and so on.

This currency strength—the propensity to constantly rise—plagues the US economy by making our exports appear more expensive which reduces exports and we lose jobs and profits in the export sector. Meanwhile, it makes foreign imports appear cheaper than what we make for ourselves here at home which increases imports and we lose jobs and profits in the domestic economy. (The jobs and profits, BTW, are exported to our trading partners, sort of…)

We combat this currency strength by printing (which actually means printing debt IOUs, i.e. borrowing more dollars into existence) and feeding a portion of that new liquidity into the foreign exchange where it's being drained by foreigners. Yet even if we print enough to keep the dollar from rising, it still causes our trade deficit to rise because of a net outflow of dollars, which causes us to lose jobs and profits in pretty much all sectors except the financial sector, which absolutely THRIVES on this "vicious circle".

So the dollar's exchange rate is actually a function of our pouring new dollar liquidity into the FX versus their draining of dollar liquidity from the FX. If they are draining faster than we are pouring, the dollar will rise, like it's doing right now!

Before 1971, things were a little different. Exchange rates were fixed, and our trade deficit wasn't really an imbalance in the same way it is today, because we paid for it by running down our systemic "savings" (gold). In essence, because the international currency used to pay for our overconsumption in the 60s was a real and exhaustible good (gold), it wasn't purely notional like it is today. As they drained dollars, we poured gold. From about 1957 until 1971, we emptied our gold reserves from more than 20,000 tonnes down to just 9,000. At that point we said "no more," and started running up our debt rather than running down our savings.

Notice that, at this point, both currency exchange rates and the gold price were finally allowed to fluctuate, to adjust, to release some pressure. It certainly wasn't a clean float, but it was a significant change to the international monetary system that occurred in 1971. It's kinda sorta like this (if you're still following my analogy), if "pouring" gold was like fighting fire with water, pouring notional debt denominated in a purely symbolic unit was like fighting fire with gasoline.

Of course they didn't have to accept our debt. They could have bought gold from the open market with those 1972 dollars, or they could have bought anything really for that matter. But when we look at our trade deficit since then, we can see that they continued hoarding dollars as the final settlement. In cumulative nominal terms, it's $9.5T since 1971. In real terms it's quite a bit more.

If we'd kept running down our "savings" in 1971, it would have lasted for another $10 Billion in net imports rather than the $10 Trillion it has so far. Even at today's gold price of around $1,200, it would have only brought another $350 Billion in net imports. Saying "no more" was a darn good deal for "US" in 1971, and apparently for everyone else too, since they (you?) were the ones who made it all possible! :D

As we used this privilege you gave us to build the greatest superpower this planet has ever seen, with a customized Humvee in front of every McMansion, and eleven carrier groups keeping the rest of you safe, look at what else you got for supporting us! The Dow went from 600 to 18,000!!! Can you believe it? Let me just say thank you ROW, and you're welcome (for a 3,000% return on your investment in the pure exceptionalism of the greatest superpower this planet has ever known… not counting all the dividends along the way. ;).

"You've got to realize that it is both economically and politically undesirable for any currency to appreciate against its peer currencies due to its use as a safe haven. Remember the Swiss franc? As soon as it started rising due to safe haven use they started printing it back down. The dollar is no different except that it's got a whole world full of paper obligations denominated in it. So when it blows, the fireworks will be something to behold."

-From my 2012 Interview
(recommended for rereading)
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"The US Federal Reserve has pulled the trigger. Emerging markets must now brace for their ordeal by fire.

They have collectively borrowed $5.7 trillion in US dollars, a currency they cannot print and do not control. This hard-currency debt has tripled in a decade, split between $3.1 trillion in bank loans and $2.6 trillion in bonds. It is comparable in scale and ratio-terms to any of the biggest cross-border lending sprees of the past two centuries.

Much of the debt was taken out at real interest rates of 1pc on the implicit assumption that the Fed would continue to flood the world with liquidity for years to come. The borrowers are "short dollars", in trading parlance. They now face the margin call from Hell as the global monetary hegemon pivots.

The Fed dashed all lingering hopes for leniency on Wednesday. The pledge to keep uber-stimulus for a "considerable time" has gone, and so has the market's security blanket, or the Fed Put as it is called. Such tweaks of language have multiplied potency in a world of zero rates.

Officials from the Bank for International Settlements say privately that developing countries may be just as vulnerable to a dollar shock as they were in the Fed tightening cycle of the late 1990s, which culminated in Russia's default and the East Asia Crisis.

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Stress is spreading beyond Russia, Nigeria, Venezuela and other petro-states to the rest of the emerging market nexus, as might be expected since this is a story of evaporating dollar liquidity...

Turkey relies on imports for almost all its energy and should be a beneficiary of lower crude prices. Yet the Turkish lira has fallen 12pc since the end of November. The Borsa Istanbul 100 index is down 20pc in dollar terms.

Indonesia had to intervene on Wednesday to defend the rupiah. Brazil's real has fallen to a 10-year low against the dollar, as has the index of emerging market currencies. Sao Paolo's Bovespa index is down 23pc in dollars in three weeks.

The slide can be self-feeding. Funds are forced to sell holdings if investors take fright and ask for their money back, shedding the good with the bad. Pimco’s Emerging Market Corporate Bond Fund bled $237m in November, and the pain is unlikely to stop as clients discover that 24pc of its portfolio is in Russia.

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The Fed has already slashed its bond purchases to zero, withdrawing $85bn of net stimulus each month. It is clearly itching to raise rates for the first time in seven years. This is the reason why the dollar index (DXY) has jumped 12pc since May, smashing through its 30-year downtrend line, a "seismic change" in the words of HSBC.

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This time the threat does not come from insolvent states. They have learned the lesson of the late 1990s. Few have dollar debts. But their companies and banks most certainly do, some 70pc of GDP in Russia, for example. This amounts to much the same thing in macro-economic terms.

Private debt morphs into state debt since governments cannot allow key pillars of their economies to collapse. Does anybody believe that the Kremlin can walk away from $50bn of external debt owed by its oil giant Rosneft? Or that the $170bn debt owed by Brazil's Petrobas is a purely private matter? Standard & Poor's says the only reason it has not yet slashed Petrobras to junk is because of implicit state support.

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World finance is rotating on its axis, says Stephen Jen, from SLJ Macro Partners. The stronger the US boom, the worse it will be for those countries on the wrong side of the dollar.

"Emerging market currencies could melt down. There have been way too many cumulative capital flows into these markets in the past decade. Nothing they can do will stop potential outflows, as long as the US economy recovers. Will this trend lead to a 1997-1998-like crisis? I am starting to think that this is extremely probable for 2015," he said."


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"I’ve gotten a 100 percent raise. Not as a reward for hard work or long-term loyalty to my employer, but as a gift of timing. This windfall isn’t a one-off like a bonus, nor is it evenly spaced like paychecks after a promotion. I get richer at random. Almost every time I visit the ATM, what I take out is a smaller slice of what I make than it was the time before. I’m paid in dollars, but I live in Russia, where the currency is currently collapsing; as the ruble loses value, I effectively get a raise. This week alone, at the time of this writing, my salary’s worth has increased by 20%.

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There is a giddy gambler’s thrill to watching your money gain value for reasons beyond your control. The world becomes your Costco; “gotta stock up on house slippers, they’re so cheap and you never know when you’ll have ten people over and they all need to wear house slippers!” As the ruble’s decline accelerated, my dollar-denominated friends and I looked up exchange rates as frequently as sports fans who can’t not check the score on their phones under the table at a nice restaurant. We texted each other the latest numbers, strategized about the timing of ATM visits and large purchases. (One friend who has held off on extending her gym membership until it runs out this month gloats daily as the currency collapses.) Taxis no longer felt like an indulgence and on more than one occasion, I ordered an extra two entrees for dinner to meet the delivery minimum.

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A couple days later, I met up with a group of mainly-expat friends at a bar called Lumberjack, where the waiters have the kind of facial hair favored by Civil War soldiers and wear tight flannel shirts and wool slacks fastened to suspenders. (Moscow is obsessed with Williamsburg.) When the conversation among the expats inevitably turned to the ruble, the group was split into two camps along the lines of the currencies in which our paychecks were denominated. While those of us paid in dollars, euros or pounds lived in a time of bounty, a woman paid in rubles said she wouldn’t be able to leave the house when she went home to America for the holidays, she was so broke. One half of a very cute couple was paid in dollars, while her boyfriend was paid in rubles. One small step in the fight against the gender pay gap?! No, that was the cheap cocktails’ expensive ingredients talking.

The bar was loud, but I felt we ought to be whispering, or not discussing the topic at all. When I first drank at this bar in September, I ordered the Penicillin, a cocktail made with ginger, honey and lemon, blended scotch whisky and Islay single malt scotch. I had first tried it at a bar with not unsimilar decor underneath the BQE. It cost 450 rubles, and my credit card bill reflected this with a charge of $12.60. When I recommended the drink to the expats at the table, it cost $8.54. How can a bar in central Moscow stay in business serving excellent, strong, classic cocktails made with imported liquors? If Lumberjack has yet to raise its prices, yesterday the Penicillin would have cost anywhere from $7.72 to $5.68, depending on the time of day you ordered it.

Gradually companies that import consumer goods to Russia are announcing price increases. The period in which Russia was the cheapest place in the world to buy an iPhone was all too short. Still, prices haven’t kept pace with the ruble’s depreciation. Russians aren’t getting raises and can’t afford to spend more money on the same stuff, and retailers won’t be able to hang onto business if they hike up prices. Yet the experts on the radio promise inflation of 15 or 20% early next year. What will happen when people can’t afford to buy groceries?"


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"Belarus blocked online stores and news websites Sunday, in an apparent attempt to stop a run on banks and shops as people rushed to secure their savings…



The blockage started on December 19, when the government announced that purchases of foreign currency will be taxed 30 percent and told all exporters to convert half of their foreign revenues into the local currency.

"Looks like the authorities want to turn light panic over the fall of the Belarussian ruble into a real one," Belarus Partisan website wrote, calling the blockages "December insanity."

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As a result, expect to see more of this...





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Kommersant, a Russian business daily, said the exporters may have to sell a combined $1bn a day until March. …

The directive forcing state exporters to reduce their dollar holdings amounts to a soft form of the capital controls the government has pledged not to introduce.

Officials insist private companies will not be given orders on how and when to convert their dollar earnings into roubles. But Mr Medvedev appealed to the oligarchs at the meeting last week to manage their forex operations in a “responsible” manner.

“They are being convinced,” said one official last week. “There were no threats of sending anyone to Siberia, just explanations that they would act in a way that is not speculative.”

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"I've accepted a position as Chief Economist on the Senate Budget Committee."

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"The yuan rose by the most since May after China relaxed rules on banks’ foreign-exchange holdings, allowing them to hold fewer dollars.

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“Some banks may be selling some of their dollar positions as they won’t need to keep them under the new rules,” said Dariusz Kowalczyk, a Hong Kong-based strategist at Credit Agricole CIB. The changes could lead to “low tens of billions in dollars” being freed up, he estimated.

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The central bank is pressing ahead with exchange-rate liberalization and has basically withdrawn from regular intervention in the currency market, Deputy Governor Hu Xiaolian said Nov. 27 in Beijing."



FOA (10/20/00; 14:00:07MD - usagold.com msg#43)
A fireside Chat

Aristotle, said this today:
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Aristotle (10/19/2000; 5:44:45MT - usagold.com msg#: 39386) Do you heed your own advice? Thoughts on Trade deficits--big and small

"""""As for the U.S., we are in a unique but temporary position in which we haven't yet had to pay the full price for our past trade deficits. Until that day arrives (with severe currency devaluation), we might be inclined to stand the old terms on their heads and describe our current trade deficit as a FAVORABLE trade position because we are receiving real goods and services from other countries with partial payment (required in excess of our own exports) made in typically depreciating paper of our own easy creation.""""""

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The dollar deficit is truly the main money destruction tool being forced to function in our modern "killing fields" of today! In the past we saw this trade deficit function operate for only short periods as it constricted growth in our US economy! Now, they have not only the US economy but also its currency caught permanently in this long term trap. For the first time since we left the gold standard while making them play by our rules, they now have us. Once before, in 1985 (look at a dollar chart then) we were well on our way to the same problems, but the difference then was that "noone" had a potential alternative reserve currency system to run to when we induced a recession. Today they do and this "waiting in the wings system" is the hatchet tool in the hands of our world markets that will do us in. As the ECB says; """ it's not the Euro is too low, your dollar is too high ,,,,,,,, so go ahead, make my day and fix it"""! (smile) Indeed, no intervention by the US now is a stab in the heart of the dollar economy.

The US has had the rest of the world in somewhat of a trap also. For a long, long time. Perhaps from when we told them that the world gold exchange standard bearer would no longer ship gold for dollars. From that point on we (USA, my country) could inflate our money without consequences.

In fact, we had to inflate in this "Darwin" fashion over all these years! Truly, if we did not inflate long term and ship liquidity (created dollars) outside the US, our dollar's value would always soar above other strong currencies. This is because of its world settlement function. Notice I said soar over their value instead of they would fall away from our value. There is a difference. As in our recent hikes, we saw that the internal basket of goods prices for both dollars and Euros dictated that these currencies are at opposite extremes in value and should reverse. Further; I use Darwin because everyone came to think that our sending money overseas was part of the "natural order of things" (chimps (smile)). They thought and still do think that the world just craves our money! They will have a different opinion later.

We must reconcile with the truth of this process by looking at the dollar world from 1971; the one time the dollar soared too high for too long it began killing off our economy. Forcing us into the same printing policy other lesser nations must employ to keep their exchange rate level. Yes, even the USA must sell overseas to create jobs and profits at home. A huge trade deficit in a reserve currency nation, induced by an overvalued currency like we are seeing now, raises the currency's value even further above other strong fiats. This is the way such a reserve system naturally reacts when there is no local reduction in liquidity to check it.

A regular (non reserve currency) nation's money would suffer a different fate if they inflated the native currency the way we do. Its non trade settlement function begets a falling exchange rate. That in turn drives then into the same policy of hyper inflation but its effects are felt in higher prices, immediately.

Again, conversely, a reserve currency always rises in exchange function from this forced "liquidity draining" trade settlement. Once on this trend, over time, the higher its value goes the more people finance in other mediums (yen carry, gold carry, Euro carry, oil carry) This further dries up the fractional reserve created dollar reserves as the demand for dollars grows ever stronger from its ever higher cost trade settlements. Settlements dictated because IMF / dollar protocols demand dollar use as settlement.

In the past if the system began driving the dollar too high and forcing US trade deficits, the Fed would raise rates to throw us (USA) into an economic recession that broke the vicious deficit trade cycle. Knowing full well that it would be a short recession policy because "noone" would jump the dollar ship before the medicine could work. Looking around back then and we see there was no other reserve currency ship to jump to. We either lose jobs and profits from an "overvalued currency" or from an induced recession. The first can lead to a financial breakdown, the lasts corrects things after only a short while. Naturally, we embark on the quick fix of a fast recession.

This is why our times are so very different now. What the "chimps" came to know over this 20+ year period as a strong America in a high dollar, was always something our money creators were striving to fight against. We truly have always been inflating our currency for these many years in an attempt to keep the natural effects of the IMF reserve system from spiking the currency too high up. Again, if we had a regular currency, our policies would have been reflected in sky high prices for everything. What most of us "smart chimps" know as price inflation reflecting money supply inflation.

OK, let me sip some starbuck's:

Ever since the Euro was seen in by US policy makers as an eventual success, our treasury has tried to put its best "New York Spin" on the ongoing process. Simply stated; from the early to mid 90s we are in favor of a strong dollar policy. In reality, with the advent of the Euro and the evolving stance of the BIS, this has made our "economy killing" strong dollar unavoidable.

There is no way the Fed can create a new recession now without everyone jumping ship for another currency reserve. There is no possible way the Euro Zone will suffer as big a downfall as the US in another policy induced recession. Just looking at their closed economy and debt structure tells that story by itself. Any US slowdown means a run for the Euro, yet weakness in the Euro means the US must inflate at a torrid rate. We now stand toe to toe and wait to see who will fall first. All the while our world dollar gold markets are caught in the cross fire!

This is where we have been for the last decade. This explains why the DOW and all its paper cousins have enjoyed the effects of a massive, ongoing dollar expansion worldwide without any official policy interference. Right when we were to the point of changing policy to slow things down, the Euro was to be introduced in a year or two and risked taking away or sharing the dollar's standard.

The "lesser chimps", lost in Western thought keep waiting for the fed to induce their deflationary policy. (I was monkey - ing around in this area for a while myself) (grin) It is not coming. To do so now would commit the dollar to non reserve status in a hurry and produce a massive price inflation at home (right now) as all these unneeded dollar reserves come racing home. Remember, the ECB does not need dollar reserves! The Euro is a stand alone currency representing an in house trading block. They may have to buy dollars for oil, but others must also buy Euros for European produced goods. If the Euro went to .10 to the dollar the EuroZone economy would not stop. But all international dollar trade would grind to a halt. The USA could not sell anything internationally, at all! Every other nation would simply abandon the IMF protocols and use their native currencies to trade directly with Europe. Even Arabia would break their SDR basket peg and trade oil for Euro goods, either using their currency or directly if needed.

Our outdoor fireplace is getting hot, let's step away.

The lesser of the two evils today (and this is the one the ECB / BIS enjoys watching) is our current frozen policy. We can no longer cut off the strong dollar / growing deficit circle by raising rates and invoking a recession as in the past. This time we must continue to pump the reserves at all costs in a process that only floods the world with more dollars. It's called a currency hyperinflation and is one we (as US people) have never witnessed in modern times. The pressure has built up full volume now as all escape valves are being closed. We are well on the way to a derivatives exploding event that will break into the open with a cascading dollar and full force US price inflation.

This is the "why" for the gold derivatives policy that Physical Gold Advocates are now enjoying. Also one that leveraged paper gold investors are being tortured with. In effect, we "gold buyers" are trading 1971 style dollar derivatives contracts for the physical gold we never could get then. And doing so before a 1971 style gold event that comes in the form of a denouncement of the contractual viability of all gold contracts. Let's call it "no gold for dollar derivatives"!

All the while, just like in 71 other "chUmps" (smile) are saving these same paper gold substitutes to protect themselves from this same crisis. Further; many of them have sold their physical gold for use by the BBs. I think SteveH calls it OPG (other peoples gold). This is where the real supply that fills a Physical Gold Advocate nation's coffers (and mine) comes from. It's truly a good deal in light of what's coming. Let's not mess it up by talking about who is buying all that gold, rather just point everyone to watch how much is being sold!

The US cannot walk away from hiking our ""gold trail"" now. Because "this process" is one of the few tools available to them for keeping the dollar perception in a good light. In effect by slowing the currency transition process they are doing exactly what world dollar holders need them to do. They will inflate these derivatives until in effect; our modern gold market bankrupts itself as supply is exhausted. I say, good! (smile) But once we get to that stage, I expect that a super US economic downturn will ensue. Then the fed will go wide open and cover everything in sight to keep us going! The ongoing price inflation will be driving everything from physical gold to real estate through the roof.

I submit that many smart hard money thinkers like Traveler and Thai Gold (and many others) are walking forward but looking backward. I (myself) have tried this before but usually run into something I didn't see in front of me (smile). That something today, for modern hard money followers is in the form of an internationally induced transition away from the US dollar as a reserve currency. Such a policy evolution has the effects of driving the lead currency's creator into printing press mode as an only option to maintaining the viability of our economic and financial structures.

Yes, it eventually breaks everything! But this is nothing new for us gold history buffs and it's what has happened in countless modern national fiats around the world today. Nations that don't have a reserve currency to play with. We will do like their citizens do, continue to use dollars but carry in our pockets whatever new reserve is in fashion, as a backup! Be it gold or Euros or both. In addition, our entire financial structure (like in these other nations) will change to operating in an inflation economy. Money will be lost, big time and made big time, but things will still be financed, bought and sold. Houses will double, triple then double again in price, even as financing rates approach 35%, 40% or whatever. We will also follow the (then) prevailing world policy concerning physical gold, solely because it will make economic sense to our officials.

As such; like today, everyone uses dollar reserves because it keeps us within accepted international policy. Across the currency warfare valley our "gold trail" is coming to, we will also use gold as a free reserve medium. Mostly because it's what the leading reserve policy of that time will dictate and that will keep us on good trading terms.

No, we will not confiscate gold again. Perhaps if it is designated as US legal tender and caught up in some kind of currency change, that will pose a risk! But that's just following the same fiat rollovers so many other countries now must employ and will have little impact on most gold owners. Besides, PGA's know how to avoid such a trap through physical gold ownership diversity! US Eagles held along with a diverse group of new and old coins fit my pocket just fine. I don't worry about the premium on any ounces I buy today. In the future, the total price we now pay will probably be the premium anyway (huge smile from ear to ear!)

Again, as international trends follow the use of physical gold into the free trading asset realm, no longer as an official money, then its value and ownership will soar the world over. To date this is the future before us as the dollar fails its function.

Truly, a relationship with an honest international physical gold dealer will no doubt place oneself at the center of this exciting new financial evolution. (I'm trying to think of a dealer that would fit that description? I know I just saw one on this page. Somewhere?) (smile)

Lastly: Don't tell me an inflating dollar economy doesn't work this way! I have lived in many, many lands and have witnessed and used such inflating systems. Look around for yourself at how non reserve moneys are impacted by their native policy today and the effects of those policies on all real assets. There are few examples that do not follow this regular fiat price inflation mode. Our dollar use and function is about to revert to a lesser more common level, suffering its drop away from reserve need. In doing so it will change as never before in our time. In fact, it's only the current gold pricing system that may experience a larger change. Not only in use but in Western gold value perception.

""""We watch this new gold market together, yes?""""""

Thank you one and all for sharing this time
Trail Guide

_________

Not sure what if anything this means for 2015, but my view counter just hit the jackpot this week:


I was a little short on time this holiday season, so don't be alarmed if this post seems somewhat abbreviated by my standards. I have a feeling we'll be talking about this topic for a while, and anyway I wanted to prompt you to think about the possibilities for the Fire of 2015 yourself, rather than tell you what I think you should think. ;D


Happy New Year everyone!!!

Sincerely,
FOFOA

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Bright aurum said...

Maybe
this and this
are the reason for
this and this
AKA
this
Ari would you come out of the aether once more. We BADLY NEED your opinion, please.

Knotty Pine said...

Poor puppy :(

DP said...

It's a hard knock life

Bjorn said...

And yet like the Black Knight he refuses to lie down.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEcj8KpuJw

DP said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BshxCIjNEjY

KnallGold said...

If it's still a matter of choosing, we'd target the year of the sheep, +/- , Ari would say ;-)

Looking across the pond, the volatility in relations is massively. That's how tectonic shifts begin once the frictions are released.

Angels of Liberty - Gears of the Atom Man


Anonymous said...

FOFOA pls advise whether the recent phenomenon of gold and dollar rallying together is a sign of the end game.

ein anderer said...

My addendum questions for FOFOA would be:

Understandable that every system will be saved at ANY cost. That’s true for all of nature, not only for man made structures. If it gets cold, trees almost suicide themselves, only to survive.

If the eurozone is acting like it does—saving debts at all costs—how they can manage it later on to become the Dollar’s successful successor?

And, secondly (and may be well answered already too; where?): If a more stabile €IMS will show free floating currencies—how this feature can be realized in this extremely (?) non-homogeneous currency zone like the eurozone seems to be? Look at the slope, from Germany to Greece …

Bright aurum said...

The pigs squeak the loudest when the knife is at work.
Still, all too quiet ;-(

Bright aurum said...

@ein anderer
The Euro system can take only as much of this poison (debt) without ageing prematurely.
How is it going to digest such a large influx of debt without moral hazard? Not quite clear yet. Remember, it is the unnatural and constantly unbalanced way a monetary system is run that ends it.

Canadarob said...

With the USD climbing this fast would a fair guess be that QE is going to start in the US soon?

Franco said...

What is the objective of the Fed with the previous iterations of QE, and now the ECB? I mean, I can see how if a government is faced with high interest rates, it would be challenged to spend as much as it would like in order to spur the economy, but with the USA and Europe, interest rates are super low. So what exactly does the ECB think that it will be able to accomplish by buying government debt? What they claim is that they want to create inflation, but how would that come about unless governments start spending more? I'm mystified by all of this.

Dante_Eu said...

When the smoke alarm starts shouting, smoke in the air, fire on its way...you don't contemplate who started it, why and what others are contemplating.

You shout *F*I*R*E* and run your way. :-)

Run- Day Of Fire

Bright aurum said...
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Bright aurum said...

@Franco
It is not yet sure that it will be government debt although other conduits are to be clogged very soon.

Robert said...

Michael dV: "When GLD inventory is dropping we feel empowered and can announce to ourselves that the end is near. When it rises we say 'it really isn't all that important."

Yup. Just like the $POG. When it was rising we could all feel some excitement in the air. When it started falling, we started seeing all sorts of messages like: I don't care about the $POG. Only traders care about the $POG. Real wealth is measured in ounces not dollars. Blah blah blah. Self deception is what it is! Self deception that didn't really work, as I recall that FOFOA announced that donations dropped off dramatically with the $POG. Michael, I admire you for calling a spade a spade.

Franco, perhaps you are puzzled because you have started with a wrong assumption? Perhaps you assume that the Fed and ECB launched QE programs because they believe this is in the best interests of the economy? In truth I think it is only to benefit the banks. The Euro architecture may be completely different than the dollar, but the people calling the shots on both sides of the Atlantic are cut from the came cloth.

Bright aurum said...

Let`s contemplate how this all might end:
Four horsemen of the apocalypse:
I. The USD index passes 100. The Teslas of the USA begin to squeak.
II. The stock market tumbles taking some brokerages and such as of their ilk to the grave. Velocity on the Forex currency exchanges increases so does the volatility - in very sharp spikes and deep craters such as we have seen in the beginning of 2009, but much more frequently and making a great ado in their workings and mass media coverage.
III. Interbank lending starts to freeze up, FED announces new round of QE, but this time treasuries tank because the world cannot/ will not hold any more dollar denominated assets and dollars as well - this level of the Exter`s pyramid looks completely shattered.
IV. In a desperation the “investors” try to escape to gold en masse the way they did it in 2010-2012 but find only POG available. They drive it higher nevertheless. GLD refuses to follow and the jig is up. POG crashes the panic is everywhere. This time the USD caves in within USA.
FREEGOLD
Or the ECB yields, shoots itself in the foot and does swaps with the FED undermining the European recovery. China and Japan outcompete the European economy.

Sam said...

Well let’s just set the record straight then Robert

1) The freegold theory will not tell you if the spot price of gold in dollars will go up or down in the short term

2) The freegold theory will not tell you anything about the levels of gold in GLD in the short term.

3) According to Another and FOA none of us are in a position to time the transition. For fun we can try to interpret outside events as “signs” but they are all just pure guesses. Except for <>. His predictions and inside info are always spot on and well worth the membership fee.


Now that we got that out of the way here’s my opinion on the most common negative comments we get from time to time:

1) “Another and FOA were wrong. They said within a few years and it has been 17!”

*China stepped in and continued supporting the system. This delay didn’t make Another and FOA wrong about anything but timing. A monkey could understand a metric as simple as, “did it happen = freegold is right VS did it not happen = freegold is wrong.” If that is all someone is capable of understanding this is definitely not the blog for you. However if you read the content and understand the concepts you will know why FOFOA dedicated an entire blog to two anonymous guys that were wrong about the timing

2) “This forum was all excited when the price of gold was going up”

*This obviously attracted a bunch of gold bugs looking for further confirmation of their bets but to most of us the rise represented the Euro’s triumph over the dollar as traditionally suppressed gold prices marched upward and the Euro looked better and better as it marked its gold reserves to market. This was all part of the picture FOA painted and so for me it was exciting to watch. “One would rise because it wanted to and one would rise because it had to.” This was an important advertisement to the world that the Euro was not afraid or going to fight higher gold prices but in fact embraced them, something no government currency issuer had done in ages.

3) “This forum was all excited when the price of gold was going down”

*This represented a withdrawal of support for the paper gold market and coincided nicely with a withdrawal of structural support from China. We were talking about papergold after all and I think most understood that papergold was going to eventually burn, not go to the moon. FOA was clear on this. You can’t fractionally reserve and lend a hard asset and expect it to last forever. Waiting for the buying opportunity after gold's drop would have been dangerous. I’d hate to find out you got the timing wrong on the transition of a lifetime trying to save a measly $500 an ounce. If Another couldn’t do timing we really shouldn’t.

4) “What about GLD?”

*It most logically represented the last of the slack in the flow at one point as speculated and it most likely has been made more opaque as a result of all the attention brought to it. The Swiss made their currency peg move without warning. That’s how things are done. There is no way this transition was going to allow for a freegoldclock app to predict with any accuracy a transition of this magnitude

Robert said...

Sam, I agree with . Except #3 is speculation. Reasoned speculation to be sure, but still speculation.

M said...

I just sold a bunch of gold stocks that I happen to be ahead on. One doubled. Because just like over the last 12 to15 months, just when the posted price of gold looks like ready to get some traction on the upside, it is pole axed. They tried it today but there was limited staying power. Next week, they are going to get out the artillery. Whatever it takes. Its quite possible that we see $1150 again.

Indenture said...

Robert: Thanks for reminding me!

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Sam said...

@Robert

I originally wrote "insert gold bug charlatan here" under number 3 but it disapeared.

Michael dV said...

Robert t
in 2011 I understood FG pretty well. By 2013 I figured out that in 2011 I really didn't understand a lot of it. In fact the thing I was most wondering about in 2011 was that fofoa was saying it was complicated. Also in 2011 I was heavy into silver. As I look back I think I've come to understand more but I'd likely cringe if someone pulled up my comments from 2011.

ein anderer said...

@Franco,

So what exactly does the ECB think that it will be able to accomplish by buying government debt?

Yes, what they are buying is government debt.

BUT: They are not buying the debt from the governments! They are buying this debt, issued long ago from the governments, holded now by the big banks!

So this ECB-QE is actually a monstrous, clunky support of the European financial industry which are de facto on the rocks already (because the debt which they are holding can never be balanced again).

May be it’s really buying time until the rise of FG, which will give the ECB the possibility to balance these debts. Great gift to the banks! Banks would not have had a chance to do so.

But be carefull: I am speculating.

ein anderer said...

… (speculating about the reasons why they are doing this. That they are buying form the banks is a fact published by many newspapers, TV and radio stations.)

Jeff said...

Why would 'oil' accept a lower price for oil?

FOA: No, it's not just "profit margins" that will drive the switch. It's total worldwide demand. If the IMF / dollar group continued with past currency policies, we would be looking at a financial depression that would destroy oil demand for years to come. In order to maintain dollar reserve credibility, every other country in the world would have to slowly convert into a dollar standard. That was the only outcome from a policy of saving all debt denominated in dollars! As anyone should realize, the end of that trail would be dark, indeed!
In order to maintain some form of world economic function, the BIS and Europe embarked upon a plan to build not only an alternative currency, but an alternative "economy". Not much different than the US enjoys presently in the mist of financial turmoil.

(...)

Back on the subject of oil demand, what good is economic demand for oil if the payment settlement is worthless? Better to support a low gold price to create a new currency than risk a total loss of oil usage. A complicated game involving many players. It always does when largest trading reserve currency in the world is about to be replaced.

Jeff said...

If gold bugs hate the current system, they will hate the next one. The ECB are not closet hard money bugs, the euro won't be managed as SoV, and severed from the nation state does not mean severed from the needs of the currency users.

FOA: Yes, France Italy and Germany did apply pressure on the new ECB. But, that is the point, the ECB unlike the Federal Reserve that is controlled by a single power, will be controlled by three countries of different economic and financial purpose. This will create a balance never before seen in a world Central Bank as it controls the world reserve currency! Forget all the talk and conjecture about an independent ECB. That's just for show. The European citizens are far to knowledgeable of political motives to ever expect an un-manipulated Euro.

Rainman, I agree that the ECB will be just as bad as the FRB in the US. It's just that they will be further back in the time cycle of currencies. I have only so much time here on earth so I accept the notion that was told to me, "live with it" !

Jeff said...

But who cares if the currency is managed, or if you prefer manipulated? You have a choice don't you?

FOA: Most certainly people have reached for these ideals sense time began. A search through history will find that they were never fully achieved, as reality always dictated the final agreements. Yes, the US was founded "upon principles of freedom, not principles of prosperity", but these components are truly convoluted in that country today! I believe that people evolve and resolve there highest goals as reality dictates. Where paper money today is, at best, only a receipt for your life efforts savings,
surely society will reach for the something different. Sometimes, even something a little different is
a major change.

The dollar will fall from it's own weight of unpayable debt. That fall will occur because people will exercise their "individual responsibility and freedom" and grasp for the next best "existing" system. Hopefully, that system will continue to allow for a world wide "open trading" gold market.
Will it's price still be manipulated in Euros? Personally, I don't care, as long as I may buy physical gold, the history of wealth retention is on my side.

Jeff said...

ANOTHER had this to say to an idealogue.

"You see this world with eyes much stronger than mine. I think the years of time does wear the truth from ones vision. My thoughts once were strong for things that benefit all people. Now I view only with the logic of what is "feasible" under current conditions. It is the sad conclusion of a life brought to reality, yes?
The interaction of productive peoples, of many cultures, does require an economic function of "broad scale". The choice for this day in time does not include the best solution for monetary ills, rather it be the selection that offers most economic production for all nations. The irony does prove that the currency platform I support be also the structure upon which we all will stand.

Most will seek out this position as the "free choice" not "forced choice".

You say, " I believe it will be detrimental to us all here". Perhaps, some will walk "the lower road", but many will rise from the shallows of economic despair. For most of this world, life itself is the "detrimental" journey that brings a yearning to walk "the higher road" that some consider low. Truly, our eyes will join to view this change that must come.

"in every life, time will prove all things"

MatrixSentry said...

QE is designed to bolster bank balance sheets to ensure performance of the banking system.

Whatever happens to the exchange rate is really incidental. Most of the new base money created finds its way back to the central bank in the form of bank reserves. Some leaks into the economy and flows into financial assets. Apparently very little is used to expand credit into the nuts and bolts economy. Not much demand there relative to demand for financialized "assets".

QE is helicopter money for the banking system. Of course the ECB is going to QE. They should be expected to defend their banking system as the death dance with the $IMFS continues to its logical conclusion.




M said...

@ Matrixsentury
"Whatever happens to the exchange rate is really incidental. Most of the new base money created finds its way back to the central bank in the form of bank reserves. "

Its still money printing. Europeans and specifically Germans don't have to be "gold bugs" or "hard money socialists" to simply realize that there is no black magic in money printing. I think some of them do and they probably lost the little bit of trust with the ECB that they had. After reading When Money Dies, you can see that the politicians and the economists of the day in Wiemar Germany had all their technical reasons to print money then too. Most of which are the exact same reasons they are printing today.

They say that it takes about a lifetime for people to forget the lessons learned from the past. Since the Germany hyperinflation around 1921 was about 95 years ago, its about time to start printing money in Europe again.

Michael dV said...

M I don't think the lessons of 1923, 1926 and 1945 are yet forgotten by zee Germans. Not many are alive who remember Rudy Havenstein but a few who remember the collapse of the Mark at the end of WW2 are still with us. Certainly those in charge understand.
the political pressure to fund governments will persist but it cannot be allowed to kill the currency. Draghi may let it get bruised yes but mortally wounded...don't think so.
Don't forget it's very structure: no single nation state controls it and it has removed gold from the equation....these still exist. Duisenburg is dead a few years but I doubt all those with influence who were part of the euro's creation would sit quietly by if it was about to be sacrificed to hyperinflation.
Draghi will do what he must but only up to a point.

Nick said...

FOFOA:

"The point is that the Eurosystem's response (volume expansion) to its current systemic threat (the debt crisis) is not surprising. Does this mean the euro will collapse (experience hyperinflation)? No. Because, for one reason, it has severed the link to the nation-state. The euro is behaving perfectly predictably in maintaining the nominal performance of its system through expansion, but it cannot be forced to fund the future government profligacy of the PIIGS through volume-only expansion. That link is severed.

But the dollar, on the other hand, is nominally on the hook not only for the debt mistakes of the past, but for all future dollar-denominated liabilities, obligations, entitlements and promises of the biggest debtor in all of history, on top of a debt mountain that is probably another $100T in size depending on your measurement criteria. That's a big difference. The dollar is an old currency in the winter of its life, linked to the greatest profligate debtor the world has ever known. The euro is a young currency that has severed its link to the nation-state. The ECB can save its own system, but the member states cannot force it to fund perpetual profligacy."

I think we will see big changes in the actions of the ECB once we enter the new paradigm (as well as in the actions of savers!) Until then, everyone is playing the same old debt game... because the system demands it!

Unknown said...

To those who haven't read When Money Dies it is available legally for free
http://thirdparadigm.org/doc/45060880-When-Money-Dies.pdf

I also found that Gold Wars by Ferdinand Lips is available for free download.
If you have been following GATA/LeMetropoleCafe this book didn't anything unknown though.
http://www.fame.org/PDF/Gold%20Wars%200-9710380-0-7%20%20-%2001.21.02.pdf

enjoy

Michael dV said...

Micki
thanks. I have ...'Money...' in paper back but a pdf is nice. After Davos 2010 copies were said to be going for $1,000. I guess the really rich wanted a heads up. Fergusson is not a great fluid writer but the content make the slog worth the effort.

Michael dV said...

Rereading When Money Dies is a reminder just how bad things can get in a financial collapse. The public will be looking for someone to blame (there always has to be someone, I guess, can't possibly be our own bad behavior).
I guess I'll have to put 'flee' back on my action plan. I had sort of removed it but I guess it should at least be in the top 10.

Unknown said...

anand srivastava,

Do you suspect the real motive of Kerry and Obama recent visits to India? I think they are putting pressure on the PM to add restrictions on gold import.

fftastic said...

Jeff :
http://fofoa.blogspot.com/2012/07/jeff-blondies-open-forum.html?showComment=1343131556045#c7342415272045012385

Of course FOFOA never claimed there was "€-stability", but that euro depreciation would be targeted.

FOFOA: All the benefits and architectural innovations of the ECB stand in place now as a kind of safety net for the Eurozone for whenever the $IMFS collapses under its own weight. And the signs of this happening sometime soon are ominous and many.

It is easy and convenient for the financial press to blame the Eurozone problems on the euro itself. But I am here to show you that they are actually caused by the dollar system, counterintuitive as that may seem...

Unsustainable Deficits

The pressure on the $IMFS is building EVERYWHERE! From Greece to California, from the ECB to DC. And what exactly is all this pressure? It is unsustainable deficit spending... DEBT!

And what is the ONLY solution to this? What is the pressure release valve? It is different depending on whether you are a sovereign net creditor/saver or if you are a sovereign debtor. For the creditor/savers the ONLY solution is CUT OFF THE CREDIT and thereby FORCE AUSTERITY. If you are a debtor, the ONLY solution is DEVALUE THE CURRENCY, or more precisely, ALLOW the currency to hyper-depreciate. Yes, default is an option, but not for a sovereign that prints its own money, and not for any too-big-to-fail entities under the umbrella of such a sovereign...

The US dollar MUST devalue (one way or another) against the entire physical world. Think about this. The euro, on the other hand, might just hyper-depreciate against only one specific asset. An asset that happens to also be a MONETARY asset held by its member debtors.

The hyperinflation of the dollar is already a done deal. It has been since the 90's at least. Massive quantities of perceived dollars already exist stored in debt held globally and inside the US. Europe knows this. They have known this was inevitable since at least the mid-90's when they changed plans and went with higher gold reserves for the new ECB. They have always been willing to wait for it to happen naturally, unless the EU itself faces an existential threat from debt brought on by the $IMFS. And in this case, I believe their only option is a targeted hyper-depreciation of the euro.

By "targeted", I mean that the euro devaluation would be targeted to go only into gold. Gold can absorb a devaluation if you do it carefully, and in turn devalue the debt without causing inflationary havoc.

Of course this would cause the hyper-depreciation of the dollar as well. Only the dollar's collapse would be against all of creation, not just one asset."

Phat Repat said...

Of course FOFOA never claimed there was "€-stability", but that euro depreciation would be targeted.

Seems a rather curious assertion.

Anonymous said...

Martin Armstrong predicts Sovereign Debt Big Bang 1 October 2015.

Canadarob said...

Maybe October 1 2015 is the day gold gets revalued and martin can tell everyone he was right......

Motley Fool said...

ffantastic

The context there is during dollar hyperinflation, or otherwise existential crisis in the euro. Neither is currently in play.

TF

fftastic said...

My Thesis:
The same context holds true for a concerted plan to guide the 3 main currencies of the world to a PEG-ish threshold, then add the forth one to the SDRs, add demonetized GOLD and call it INTOR:

Three Stages of Monetary Reform

Stage I. Convergence of DEY (Dollar-Euro-Yen) Exchange Rates and G-3 Monetary Policy

Stage 2. Use of DEY as platform, possibly with gold, for world currency, the INTOR

Stage 3. Creation of INTOR and Ratification by the Board of Governors of IMF

source: Robert Mundell
http://www.normangirvan.info/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/mundell.pdf

We are in Stage 1 -Convergence of DEY (+Yuan).
So the convergence crises of the $ and $HI is still ahead.
Depegging the YUAN and Dollar-Euro 1:1,1 or lower is next.
Revaluation of gold is the very last step with and without US agreement. Without US agreement it will be "ASIOR", not "INTOR."

Franco said...

With Greece's election results, the assertion that it will not leave the Euro seems somewhat tenuous now. Unless it's all just posturing by Syriza in order to get more concessions.

MatrixSentry said...

Greece may leave the Euro. After watching the resulting Shit Show, I doubt we will see others take that path. My bet is Greece ain't going anywhere.

M said...

The Syriza guy promised to reneg on the debt. A default would look good. Its probably the easiest thing he can do. He cant print money.

Indenture said...

From 'The Gold Trail'

"Most average Western Citizens and dollar use nations have pined everything on this ongoing dollar system. Their jobs, debts, investments, retirement and lifestyle expectations all depend on the dollar always being what it is; a world reserve money that buys them more than one can create during a lifetime. As true as that thought is, few understand the implication or even want to consider their life without a supreme dollar. But, just as a large portion of world inhabitants are accustomed to using more than one currency; those of Western Thought would have trouble grasping the perception behind this simple offering:

------ I once walked across the globe and brought two persons together. I gave each $1,000 US dollars in cash. The first replied; "You can't be serious? Is this as good as it gets?" The second replied; "Oh my, thank you! In all my years of life I never knew it could be this good!"------

One reply is the product of a life with unquestioned debt availability. Where the majority of debt users cover their burden with an ever growing supply of new credit money. In this economy, not to mention this person's perception, almost free debt can purchase anything and everything.

The other is the result of local money debt being built upon foreign dollar debt reserves and covered with payments of real wealth from the sweat of one's brow."

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Robert said...

Indenture: "... all depend on the dollar always being what it is ..."

A while back I remember reading or hearing in an interview that Jim Grant has in his office a framed bond certificate of a 100 year gold bond issued by one of the railroads in the 19th century. I vaguely remember that he said he keeps it as a reminder that things never stay the same the way we think they will.

I was intrigued so I bought my own 100 year gold bond on eBay. It was issued by Cleveland, Cincinnati, Chicago & St. Louis Railway Company on May 15, 1893. It required the company to pay "One Thousand Dollars in gold coin of the United States of the present standard of weight and fineness" on June 1, 1993. The interest rate was 4% per annum, payable "in like gold coin".

We know the rest of the story. I guess a lot of unexpected things happened between 1893 and 1993. I wonder how much will change between 2015 and 2115?

Michael dV said...

Greece hates the thought of repaying odious debt that may have been borrowed by the 'oligarchy' and spent without benefit to the people. The fact they must face is that if they return to the drachma their current politicians will blow through that like Marion Berry through an 8 ball. There is no easy way out. I feel for the folks there but when you let politicians play with the checkbook these are the results you always get. The drachma will hyperinflate in months if theyreturn to it....sure thing.

M said...

@ Micheal dV

" The drachma will hyperinflate in months if theyreturn to it....sure thing. "

I agree and the new guy wants to keep the Euro. He just wants to restructure some of the debt or just default. They should just default. That would flush out the debt and unlike Russia in 1998 or SE Asia in 1997, they will still have the Euro currency to fall back on.

The problem with this is that it is unacceptable to the IMFS because it would bankrupt some big IMFS banks. But what does that matter to Greece ? Why should they care ?

Michael dV said...

I'm not sure why Greece should care. I guess 'Argentina' might come to mind but it would appear they simply cannot pay and so probably won't. We could be near the end in which case it might be moot. I can see how it could (further) damage the country's reputation.

Michael dV said...

should read: I cannot see how it could further damage...

One Bad Adder said...

Whilst the out-performance of $PoG vis-a-vis the "other" currencies has been encouraging, this consolidation phase could well last for several more months methinks.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$ONE:$USD&p=W&yr=3&mn=0&dy=0&id=p86746290175

Steve said...

The Dutch central bank, DNB, according to IMF numbers, has recently increased its total gold holdings with 10 tons to 622t. That would be a first increase since 16 years. So, the DNB is relocating (from NY to Amsterdam) and started increasing its holdings, hmm... Would that be Greek tons, or Ukrainian or......or......?? Unfortunately only in dutch:
http://www.telegraaf.nl/dft/nieuws_dft/23605635/__DNB_vult_goudvoorraad_aan__.html

Roacheforque said...

OBA,
Yes, a few more months before the dollar hits 120 and the rising price of gold in euro is less a function of QE response and more "fundamental".
The CBs are to be commended, Their thought experiments in sentiment management do inform the time when they actually do what they hint at.
In our paper world there is little difference between thoughts of value and real value ...

ein anderer said...

Greece:
Heard today that this sunny country is net importer of food. Crazy! Yes, they thought that investing money (instead of investing labour, soil and seed) was the smartest way to earn one’s living.
Bad choice.

Steve said...

Curiously enough, I would be surprised if the 10t gold addition really would be Greek, if the 10t counters the dutch loan exposure to Greece at 18billion euro, you end up with a 55.690 euro/oz price. And with euro going towards parity with the dollar THAT is a very familiar number. But I am sure that is just coincidence....... :-)

Bjorn said...

The dutch apparently deny having bought gold. So do I if anyone asks.

Steve said...

DNB denies purchase, says IMF information incorrect.
http://www.dnb.nl/en/news/news-and-archive/persberichten-2015/dnb317996.jsp

Robert said...

@M
"I agree and the new guy wants to keep the Euro. He just wants to restructure some of the debt or just default. They should just default."

The new Finance Minister Yanis Varoufakis acknwlwedged before the election that leaving the Euro would be disastrous. And so it would be. A new Drachma would hyperinflate. But so what? The Greeks would have their country back, and they would be out from the crushing load of all that unrepayable debt. Hyperinflation is no picnic, but as we have all learned here, it doesn't last forever. In contrast, all of that unrepayable debt WILL last forever unless the new government repudicates it or cuts a deal.

The political strategy will be to drag out the negotiations and hope that the new government's emboldened stance will inspire a similar reaction in the other peripheral countries. There is strength in numbers if Greece is not the only country pushing back.

And another thing to consider: Even if Greece did intend to leave the Euro, such a move MUST be calculated to come as a surprise. That means that regardless of what their true intentions are, they must tell everyone that they intend to stay.

Ken_C said...

"And another thing to consider: Even if Greece did intend to leave the Euro, such a move MUST be calculated to come as a surprise. That means that regardless of what their true intentions are, they must tell everyone that they intend to stay"

Kind of like "when it gets serious you have to lie"

Jeff said...

Why would Greece not leave?

FOA 6/6/99: Yes, wages will tend to converge and compensate equally for each form of production and skill. However, this will only work if the money creation is under one "many government" roof, such as the Euro zone. Many point out that this is a weakness of this new currency and will pull the union apart. I disagree and state that it will become it's strength.

Prior to EMU, each country changed it's exchange intervention policy to the benefit of local workers, usually providing a loss to it's currency. At least that was the overriding game plain. Now, the currency will retain the favorable attribute of "management" with the control of "diverse government needs" and lose the baggage of "maintaining mismatched skill compensation". Yes,
some citizens will be shocked to learn that their "better pay" was the result of currency intervention, not their special standing in life. It will promote a bitter struggle over time. But, it will result in far lower inflation rates in the member countries where citizens had no strong currency.

nearlynapping said...


Roacheforque said.. In our paper world there is little difference between thoughts of value and real value ...

That pretty much sums up why I am a gold bug. Fiat paper still has value, but its value is the product of our collective imagination. Knowing this truth, what is it about the human condition that causes people to believe? The illogic of it all reminds me of the chorus from my favorite Avett Brothers song:

"Head Full Of Doubt / Road Full Of Promise"

There's a darkness upon me that's flooded in light
In the fine print they tell me what's wrong and what's right
And it comes in black and it comes in white
And I'm frightened by those that don't see it.

KnallGold said...

@Robert, yeah, kinda see what you mean. Today it was said the Greek stopped to pay taxes last months, mostly because of anticipation of a Syriza win. Whatever the reasons though, withholding taxes is a blow to the heart of a state.

Do they put the euros aside instead? Preparing for things to come? To me, it smells like bankruptcy coming, whatever the authorities say.

Saving the debts at all cost, is in the end just saving those who (mistakenly) saved in debts. I know I know, but it was said all paper will burn and your savings is not what your currency said. A veritable savers vs. debtors clash breaking out.

Apropos: heard something similar brewing in America, people announcing to stop paying taxes and saying f333 IRS. In the end they will pay, though, most Americans are just too lulled in...

M said...

@ Robert

" A new Drachma would hyperinflate. But so what? The Greeks would have their country back"

But default would amount to the same thing without the hyperiflation. Who's going to stop them from defaulting ?

Jeff said...

This oil well goes to 11.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/energy/11372058/Saudi-Arabia-increases-oil-output-to-crush-US-shale-frackers.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOO5S4vxi0o

Attitude_Check said...

M, exactly nothing will stop Greece from defaulting. They should completely default 100% and run a balanced budget. Who knows what they will actually do.

Anand Srivastava said...

If Greece defaults, wouldn't it's banks collapse too? Wouldn't that be problematic. I don't think default is that easy for Greece even though it's current account is in surplus. The two sides need to negotiate and ECB will probably have to pay the interest part of the debt. And then the other debtors will demand the same thing. Europe is in for substantial QE :-). That will cause Euro to fall and dollar to rise. Bringing the system closer to singularity. Of course if Greece defaults singularity will happen faster. Either way we are getting nearer.

tEON said...

Fun math.

...nothing will stop Greece from defaulting
How about FG @ 100K ?

Greek Gold = 112.4 tonnes of Gold (69.4% of their Forex Reserves - 3rd in the world as a % after #1 Portugal and then the US at #2)
If Greek Debt is € 323 Billion
Well, 1 metric Tonne = 35274 ounces
therefore, Greek Gold Reserves = 3,964,797.6 ounces
@ €81,466.95/oz (or $91,774.02 USD) and they can actually totally cover current debt.

Jim Okefenokee said...

Pedant's Corner:

1 metric ton = 32,150 (troy) ounces

(but point taken :D)

KiwiCam said...

I have a friend, who is trading gold as a future. He's long gold. I understand that's a Paper ETF he's trading. He has no physical and has told me that he he believes it doesn't matter. As if gold goes up he'll just be able to collect his cash when the trade finishes. I'm not sure how this futures stuff works.

Is this true? And then I saw a Marc Faber article and would like to know if he's meaning physical or ETFs. Surely he means physical?

But Faber says if you position yourself for those events now, you’ll be just fine.:

“My belief is that the big surprise this year is that investor confidence in central banks collapses. And when that happens — I can’t short central banks, although I’d really like to, and the only way to short them is to go long gold, silver and platinum,” he said. “That’s the only way. That’s something I will do.”

http://libertycrier.com/marc-faber-explains-short-central-banks-public-confidence-collapses-way/

Thanks.

Unknown said...

KiwiCam, ETF is not a true short against central banks as no metal has been removed from the market. If anything ETF is part of the paper game that gold holding is supposed to hedge you from and CB's love that. Furthermore with ETF you are 1) dependent on the institution no changing the rules, 2) consider what the price is based on.
Take for instance an ETF provider that bases the trade price on (for par of the day) COMEX. If there is a default situation Comex may decide that longs get cashed out at pre-default price. Or they can go to liquidation only (as happened with Silver in 1980). The ETF could then follow suit.
So you in fact end up with a range of risks.
Physical carries only one risk, that it gets stolen. (Although I was just reading an article on how next world war will begin as cyber warfare and emptying of electronic accounts was mentioned as an example).

So with physical metal there is no counter party risk, the metal can't (easily) be destroyed, it can be passed on through generations,

Having that said I have an ETF account myself. I just realise it is not a substitute for real metal. It is a pure trading account and should the provider shutdown, I won't lose my shirt aas only a small portion of my savings has been put there.

KiwiCam said...

@PeaknikMicki Thanks. Are you short or long the ETF's? I'm of the understanding that the ETF's will become worthless. If the physical stops, those ETF's should become worthless shouldn’t they?

Unknown said...

I actually had a brain fart KiwiCam. I was thinking CFDs.
But yeah, ETF's carry counterparty risks to. i.e. ETF may have a claim on physical metal which may or may not be allocated. It is also possible an ETF is set up to mimic the paper price of metal without actually holding any metal and strictly dealing with derivative positions. Similarly to CFD it is up to the owners discretion if there are changes to terms of the fund and they may go to liquidation. Lastly if the company that runs the ETF goes belly up, then there are risks ranging from bail-ins to simply the company not having enough assets to pay out investors. After all with ETF you don't have allocated ownership.
And for disclosure, yes I do have long positions in a couple of ETF's. I wouldn't go short as I am worried about the potential of certain re-sets during non-trading hours. I'm not so comfortable holding long ETF's either but this was convenient through my retirement account.
Sorry again for my cock-up but I think similar concerns apply to both type of trading vehicles.

KnallGold said...

Ukraine Deputy has proof of USA staging civil war in Ukraine

Just political, but that's where the transition paused. Is EU politics really that naive? Or keeping such aces for later?

M said...

And like clockwork, the price of gold is plummeting this week. Most hard money newsletters are shorting gold now. Its a simple front run trade. Even I can do it.

Because the price is being controlled. Simple as that. Some say the IMFS has no interest in doing this so it must not be true. We are past the point of reason.

Down we go to the low 12's or 11 handle. Then the whole process will repeat itself again.

Bright aurum said...

The conventional oil story:
http://www.prienga.com/blog/2014/11/11/understanding-saudi-oil-policy-the-lessons-of-79
@ M
nice timing so far :-)

Bright aurum said...

"...Who paid the ultimate cost? The poor and the middle class paid the ultimate cost because the wealthy keeping most of their resources, a “cash” position in gold, it was not as easy. In fact, it was not debased in the same way that the Roman denarius was. The value of gold following Diocletian’s edict in 301 rose 45 times – 45 times. Just as a point of comparison, in the last 100 years, gold has moved up 62½ times. In the last 100 years, arguably, we have had a greater debasement than that period of Diocletian. What is it an indication of? It is an indication of a system which is bloated. That doesn’t necessarily mean that it is a system which will, tomorrow, collapse. But it does mean that the risks are growing."
Source:
http://mcalvanyweeklycommentary.com/october-1-2014-dr-joseph-tainter-the-collapse-of-complex-societies/

MatrixSentry said...

M,

Yes, gold has been predictable. As such, I put a leveraged short on GLD as gold breached $1300. I have made some good monopoly money in the process. Just as predictable, gold will likely find support near $1200. One can make a good bit of money playing the pendulum between 1150-1350. IMO, this is where gold will be if the $IMFS is going to extend. When my monopoly money stack gets big enough, I convert it to real wealth by exchanging it for gold coins.

This will work until it doesn't work. Since I am still in the stacking mode, I am happy for the opportunity I am given. I cannot control the process of transition to Freegold. But, I can control how I interact with the dying $IMFS.

Knotty Pine said...

@Bright aurum,

Thanks for the link. Very interesting when viewed through the freegold lens. Think of the ever increasing complexity that makes up the monetary plane today.

From Mona Lisa or Ben Franklin:

"The evolution of this system has bestowed upon the governments and bankers of the world a way to skim value from the wealth you store during your productive years. It is as if they are not only clipping the coins that pass through their possession, but they are also coming into your home and clipping the coins you have hidden for later use.

In order to achieve this magical feat, the system has grown excessively complex. And under the weight of its own complexity, it is now collapsing. Soon we will find ourselves back in the olden days, where there once was a difference between wealth preservation and "making money"."

M said...

@ Matrixsentury

Yep. I have been doing the same. Didn't expect this bounce this morning but its early.

But the main reason I bring this up is because there was a lot of discussion on here saying that these price smashes were not the work of the IMFS because they had no interest in doing it. What I would say to that is, they might think the IMFS has no interest in doing it and maybe they are right. But they are assuming that the IMFS knows what is best for it.

Zebedee said...

On a slow comments day..........

For the potwatchers......Gold in AUD hit a 25 month high
overnight. Strong USD, small pop in paper gold, commodity reliant AUD in the toilet, home prices at stupid levels, mining boom bust. The pundits are betting on a cash rate decrease early next week which will likely further fuel the investor housing bubble.

The lucky country. Yeah right. Where the average home is 7 - 8+ times the average stagnant slave wage. You'd have to be nuts to purchase property here. It's an accident waiting to happen. I'm not sure who will be buying all this overpriced RE in years to come with Mum and Dad boomers looking to downsize.

Such a mess.

My opinion, we here in the land down under will be doing exactly that......going down buddy.

Anyone been watching the BDIY @ 608 overnight? I can't find a chart or when it was that low.

KiwiCam said...

@PeaknikMicki The brain fart was mine. EFT's, CFD's...it's all the same to me. All I understand is physical. Thanks for your info.

Beer Holiday said...

@Zebedee

The average full time wage in Aus is > 75 K.

http://www.news.com.au/finance/money/do-you-consider-yourself-a-struggling-comfortable-or-rich-australian/story-e6frfmcr-1226910189131

Who's buying Aus property ? - do you mean apart from the Chinese. You made the point, Aud falls, the Chinese bid more.

Is it a bubble - yes IMHO, but also IMHO it won't stop soon.

Just a contrary opinion :-)

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Tommy2Tone said...

Speaking of cost of living:
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-01-30/visualizing-cost-living-around-world

M said...

The new Greek finmin is actually a pretty smart guy. He is right. There is no point in selling legacy assets like the countries ports in a depression, just to throw the proceeds down a black hole of debt. Sure Greece pissed money away. But its a 2 way street. Its also the creditors fault for lending it to them. Now the creditors expect to get Greek assets at fire sale prices just because they were dumb enough to lend Greece that much money ? Not so fast..
Full interview
https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-ts=1422579428&v=BiIO4YciewU&x-yt-cl=85114404

Now the ECB is threatening to stop funding Greek banks. Why should the Greeks care about that ? That would be a good thing. Most Greeks don't have money anyway.

Greece can have a big collapse without the worry of having the currency collapse with it.

queckshep said...

Wtf SNB? No more free float I guess (peg €/CHF between 1.05-1.10)

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/02/01/swiss-snb-unofficial-idUKL6N0VB0KD20150201?feedType=RSS&feedName=rbssFinancialServicesAndRealEstateNews

Bright aurum said...

An funny comment from

http://thearchdruidreport.blogspot.com/2014/10/dark-age-america-involuntary-simplicity.html

(the article is worth reading)

daelach said...

A little news from the Old World.. in Hamburg / Germany, African underage refugees got a serious beat-up by the bullies of some pimps. The reason was that the refugees pocket-picked the customers of the prostitutes while they were negotiating the price on the street. Which means, the money didn't go to the prostitutes. The pimps say they had alerted the police to do something, but the police did nothing. After three weeks, the pimps decided to have their bullies patrol the disctrict and solve the problem themselves.

And that is new. Granted, infights between rivaling pimps have been pretty normal, but it is new that they take over actual work for maintaining order. Protection money used to be downright blackmail because those claiming the protection money usually offered protection against themselves. But I have the feeling that this is the first sign of what eventually will lead to a warlord society, and the warlords will be accepted because they have to offer something the state can't provide anymore. Mainly because the state puts up tons of ineffective layers (esp. with underage criminals) for what the pimps do directly with just some bullies.

Btw, that's also a foreshadow of a failing legal system in late civilisations, to be replaced by a more barbarian, direct legal system. Just as in ancient Rome. It was just a news article, but I have the feeling I'm watching how history is being made.

Michael dV said...

'Pablo offers you his protection'...Napoleon Dynamite

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